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It depends on exactly what they were dismissed for. The story only touches on the social media part of this, they've possibly broken social media policy after ignoring a manager's instruction to remove the mugs.

The real story often isn't as clickbait worthy as the headline.
Agreed. I would find it hard to belief that a single incident constitutes one strike and you are out. There seems to be more to it, as there usually is.
 
Pretty much confirms the trigger point was the coffee mugs.
 
I'm still not sure what's gone on, but I'm outraged all the same. Whoever can guarantee my right to use porn-mugs at work will get my vote in the next election.
Well all I can say is that if you did that working for our company, and you did that and bullied another member of staff then you'd be out as well. :facepalm:
 
Well all I can say is that if you did that working for our company, and you did that and bullied another member of staff then you'd be out as well.

I think its a case of not moving with the times, When I started my apprenticeship as a mechanic there were posters everywhere of topless girls, every supplier sent them out every year.
 
I think its a case of not moving with the times, When I started my apprenticeship as a mechanic there were posters everywhere of topless girls, every supplier sent them out every year.
The statement from the RNLI clearly indicates that this wasn't just about the mug or some topless girls (that you see on the beach anyway). The combination with the other behaviour is likely what has lead to this.
 
If I was going to be pulled out of the sea in a raging storm I would like to know what mug he uses first.
 
If I was going to be pulled out of the sea in a raging storm I would like to know what mug he uses first.
Whilst I agree with that during that action. I don’t think any should ever be above replacement for their behaviour despite their good technical skills for the job they do. Anyone’s coworker has a right to an environment in which they aren’t bullied.
 
Pretty much confirms the trigger point was the coffee mugs.

No, it pretty much confirms that an employer has taken action over what they see as bullying in the workplace.

Out of interest @Marv, what type of environment do you work in?
 
No, it pretty much confirms that an employer has taken action over what they see as bullying in the workplace.
Not entirely about an employer or about a workplace if they are volunteers.

Also I'm guessing it's male dominated. This isn't a local council office with a HR department.

The RNLI also largely exists thanks to donations. If there's a public backlash then the RNLI will be being directly hit.
 
Not entirely about an employer or about a workplace if they are volunteers.

Also I'm guessing it's male dominated. This isn't a local council office with a HR department.

The RNLI also largely exists thanks to donations. If there's a public backlash then the RNLI will be being directly hit.

So if they're volunteers, how could they be sacked? Regardless of it being a local council office or the RNLI, it's still a place of work so if someone makes a complaint it should be followed up. The details around it (apart from the usual social media angst) are sketchy and the official statement you linked shows that's because the two volunteers have a right to appeal.

Clearly, this isn't just about having a couple of mugs with pictures on them, although that may have started it. The eternally triggered people like Marv are an easy target for these articles (strange that everyone else gets called snowflakes?) and without full, real, facts it's impossible to know exactly how these two people responded to the complaint which led to them being stood down.
 
Not entirely about an employer or about a workplace if they are volunteers.

Also I'm guessing it's male dominated. This isn't a local council office with a HR department.

The RNLI also largely exists thanks to donations. If there's a public backlash then the RNLI will be being directly hit.
The rules for bullying in the workplace / safeguarding are the same whether you're a volunteer or an employee.
 
The rules for bullying in the workplace / safeguarding are the same whether you're a volunteer or an employee.
True. Though it seems to be about a mug that was in a cupboard. I'm not sure that classes as "bullying." Someone needs to be bullied. This seems more like banter.

There seems to be a line that kids visit and might have seen it, but that's a bit vague. Kids would be looking at the boats not rooting through cupboards. I suppose you could say someone might use the mug for a brew while they were about, but I alone have three different mugs at work.
 
So if they're volunteers, how could they be sacked?
Exactly. A little different as people are there for the love of the job, not the money.

The fact others also left seems like a few there also weren't happy over this and left.

I'm guessing those who also left know more about it than most.
 
True. Though it seems to be about a mug that was in a cupboard. I'm not sure that classes as "bullying." Someone needs to be bullied. This seems more like banter.

There seems to be a line that kids visit and might have seen it, but that's a bit vague. Kids would be looking at the boats not rooting through cupboards. I suppose you could say someone might use the mug for a brew while they were about, but I alone have three different mugs at work.

Are you deliberately ignoring the statement you shared the link to? The mugs aren't the reason for the two people being stood down, there was online bullying (as stated by the RNLI) which led to the action. The fact you're focusing on the mugs as 'bants' shows that you're ignoring the actual facts.
 
Exactly. A little different as people are there for the love of the job, not the money.

The fact others also left seems like a few there also weren't happy over this and left.

I'm guessing those who also left know more about it than most.

I refer you back to the original angst-ridden headline that Marv shared and agreed with;

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Again, how can you be 'sacked' from a voluntary role?
 
No, it pretty much confirms that an employer has taken action over what they see as bullying in the workplace.

Out of interest @Marv, what type of environment do you work in?

I work in a male female/ environment. But my department is all male. There is some steady banter and everyone has a good laugh.


If the reason for these guys getting sacked is solely bullying then fair enough they should get the sack. But if its the coffee mugs that set it off then it seems its another case of the PC brigade trying to find offence in something.
 
If the reason for these guys getting sacked is solely bullying then fair enough they should get the sack. But if its the coffee mugs that set it off then it seems its another case of the PC brigade trying to find offence in something.

People don't get sacked for ifs and buts.
 
Again, how can you be 'sacked' from a voluntary role?
With most jobs your employer has a hold over you. One way or another the employee has to pay the bills and needs the job. Unless the employee think they can walk into another job or they have savings, they are partly tied to that job. The job can go downhill but people may have to stay with it and go along with what the rules are.

Volunteers are there, giving up their time. If they aren't happy they can go at any point. Nothing is keeping them there other than a love of the work itself. That's a different dynamic and means the boss is going to be lead more by the workers.
 

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