So, a few days on, what are your thoughts on Pro Evo 4 on the PS2 only??? I have to say that I think it is superb A few days ago I stated that I did not think that the graphics were quite as good as Pro Evo 3, but I am playing on an LCD projector connected via RGB so the definition is not quite as good as say a plasma or a CRT with a decent connection. I set the PS2 up on my CRT yesterday and again, viewed through RGB it looks superb though I still find it annoying that so much effort has gone into foreign team kits whilst the Premier teams and National teams look a little poor in comparison. Still can and will update.... Game play wise I cannot believe how much better this is that PE3. Sure, it is the same game but it really has evolved and the animation is spot on. It is so fluid, passing is smoother and thus better. I love the way that you can pass the ball into space for a player to run into. The animation is sublime and just tonight, I was playing a game where I played the ball forward to my striker who had his back to goal. However, spotting a runner I pressed left one and triangle expecting to have to turn and lift the ball over the top .oh no, the player actually lofted a through ball over the defense by back heeling it Bloody genius I was amazed and I can only refer to it as a true Soccer A.M show boat moment if you are familiar with that programme I never ever saw that in Pro Evo 3 and like most of us I played that every day for a year!!!!!!! You really do need to work hard to score a goal or two now and its a delight when I passing move comes to fruition. I love crossing the ball with a double press of circle and sending a striker into the middle for a tasty bullet or directed header. So, what are your thoughts??? Lets not turn this into a FIFA vs. Pro Evo debate again though hey??? Cap Oh and I still struggle to score with Free kicks outside the area .any tips ?