Yamaha RX-V673 or RXA810?

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by adds58, Jul 27, 2012.

Tags:
  1. adds58

    adds58
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2005
    Messages:
    80
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Location:
    Brighton
    Ratings:
    +3
    I'm looking to replace a dead Yamaha RX-V2600 and I've seen the RV-V673 and RXA810. I realise the A810 is last years model but they're coming in at around the same price (£479 and £499 respectively).

    I don't need the zone 2 video anymore and just need the ability to have 7.1. I'm powering 3 x B&W M1's at the front, with 4 x B&W CCM665's with a B&W ASW600.

    Any thoughts on which would be best?
     
  2. PSM1

    PSM1
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2008
    Messages:
    26,285
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +5,443
    Considering they are basically the same price you should get the 810 as it is a higher level receiver so should give better sound quality.
     
  3. xedas

    xedas
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2012
    Messages:
    95
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    11
    Ratings:
    +7
    From the new yamaha rx-vX73 line the model "equivalent" to the RX-A810 is the 773 not the 673....mainly for two reasons:
    - both 810 and 773 have multichannel pré-outs and the 673 don't...
    - Both 810 and 773 have two hdmi out's and the 673 don't....

    The 773 (and the 673) have more recent whistles like....4K stuff
    On the other and the Avantage lione have the "fifth foot" :D

    The reason those are on the same price is because the x73 is the newest RX-V line and the released the new Avantage RV-A720, 820, 1020....

    My vote:
    yamaha rx-v673 - 0
    yamaha rx-a810 - 2
     
  4. adds58

    adds58
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2005
    Messages:
    80
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Location:
    Brighton
    Ratings:
    +3
    I've just seen that I can pick up the 673 for £339 at the moment which makes it very appealing for me right now!

    Taking that into account I'm not sure the extra bits are worth £160 more?
     
  5. xedas

    xedas
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2012
    Messages:
    95
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    11
    Ratings:
    +7
    That's a good price and a good choice......assuming that you don't need the second HDMI and the pré-outs, because if you need (in the future to use a projector and to add extra amplification) those 160 are worth paying (and don't forget the extra 5 watts :D of power per channel of the A810)

    Remember that the 810 is not "4K compatible"....what ever that means. Neither the current blu-ray player's and TV (these are compatible but not sure we'll spot the "4K factor").

    All brands released a new line of AV Receivers....mostly justified by this feature....and they disguised by lowering some features to the models immediately above.

    Markting rullez.

    good luck
     
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2012
  6. jacobscreek

    jacobscreek
    Standard Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2006
    Messages:
    18
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Ratings:
    +0
    Hi,

    Would you mind sharing where you have found the 673 for £339 please? I'm looking at buying that amp too but can't find it near that price.

    Thanks
     
  7. adds58

    adds58
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2005
    Messages:
    80
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Location:
    Brighton
    Ratings:
    +3
  8. jacobscreek

    jacobscreek
    Standard Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2006
    Messages:
    18
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Ratings:
    +0
  9. jacobscreek

    jacobscreek
    Standard Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2006
    Messages:
    18
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Ratings:
    +0
    So it's just arrived. Looks very impressive, though I won't get to try it for about a month as the room is still being converted.
    Must say I'm very impressed with the service from Audio Express so far and I love the set up guide.
     
  10. adds58

    adds58
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2005
    Messages:
    80
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Location:
    Brighton
    Ratings:
    +3
    I received mine on Monday and have it all plugged in. It sounds a lot better than my old amp, so maybe it did me a favour by dieing!

    Now I just have to find some time to redo some of my wiring and figure out the optimal way to set it all up!

    Very impressed with Audio Express as well.
     
  11. Jarroda

    Jarroda
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2006
    Messages:
    815
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Ratings:
    +86
    Has the deal ended ? I see the link leading to the 673 at £499.
     
  12. adds58

    adds58
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2005
    Messages:
    80
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Location:
    Brighton
    Ratings:
    +3
    Looks like they changed it slightly. They were doing this as a limited deal as the 671 was going out of circulation.

    It might be worth going to Yamaha RX-V671 7.1 receiver - from Audio Express which will then tell you its out of stock but to email in your interest. I would guess that would then offer you the 673 as an alternative at the same price (although it does appear to have gone up to £349). Worth a shot as you can always decline when they email if they indeed offer you the 671.
     
  13. Jarroda

    Jarroda
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2006
    Messages:
    815
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Ratings:
    +86
    I might need to have a chat with them as I believe I need the 773 for the twin Hdmi outputs.

    Edit. Called and they don't yet stock the 773. Sounds like what I need though, so I'll be watching this space.
     
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2012
  14. sunil1234

    sunil1234
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2004
    Messages:
    1,333
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings:
    +121
    not opting for the 810 then?
     
  15. Jarroda

    Jarroda
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2006
    Messages:
    815
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Ratings:
    +86
    I purchased the V773 a couple of weeks back. It's fully installed and in use now.
     
  16. dante01

    dante01
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2009
    Messages:
    46,611
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +11,232
    Even the RXV773 would not be comparable to the RXA810. The Adventage replacement model for the RXA810 due in the next couple of months will be the equivalent current model of the RXA810 ;)

    The RXV773 is closer to the RXA810 than the RXV673 though.

    If simply a matter of which you should buy in terms of value for money then the current answer is the RXA810, but then again you can get an RXV673 for just £350 if you do not mind being limited to the titanium finish:

    Yamaha RX-V673 7.2 network receiver

    The RXA810 is a superior amp though and placed at least two steps up from where the the RXV673 is situated.
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2012
  17. Vid

    Vid
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2010
    Messages:
    5,543
    Products Owned:
    8
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +3,163
    Hi Jarroda,

    Don't really wanna hijack this thread but did you purchase the V773 black or Titanium ? I have had my V773 on order for a few weeks now and still waiting so wanted to know if my outlet is taking the mick.

    Regards
    Vid
     
  18. sunil1234

    sunil1234
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2004
    Messages:
    1,333
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings:
    +121
    creative are getting the 673 in black at the end of this month sir. I think i am going to opt for the 1010 + q accoustics 7000 as i see the 1010 superior to the 673 and even 773 for around £120 more than the 673+Q7000 price . Would i be correct?

    TIA

    S
     
  19. dante01

    dante01
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2009
    Messages:
    46,611
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +11,232
    I think there's some confusion over the difference between the RXV and Adventage RXA amps? Any of the RXA Adventage amps will be superior to the RXV amps. The Adventage range is a higher end product than the RXV models. The new RXVx73 models only replace the old RXVx71 models and the Adventage models have yet to be replaced this year. The RXA1010 is the amp above the aforementioned RXA810 so yes, it would be superior to both the RXA810 and the RXV773.
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2012
  20. sunil1234

    sunil1234
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2004
    Messages:
    1,333
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings:
    +121
    Thanks, i am gonna pull the trigger on the 1010 + q accoustics 7000 (has to be a lifestyle speaker). Looking fwd to the upgrade from my onkyo htx 22hd . Nothing wrong with that but i just got the bug all over again lool
     
  21. Jarroda

    Jarroda
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2006
    Messages:
    815
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Ratings:
    +86
    Hi, sorry for taking a few days to reply, haven't been online much over the bank holiday weekend.

    I purchased the Black version of the V773. It was in stock with a supplier I'd just used for my AV Cabinet and with me 18 hours after placing the order. I was told it was the last one they had though (3 weeks ago so they could have more now)...

    The V773 has many advantages for me over the 810 / 1010. Size and Airplay are the big two. Airplay is a superb feature that you don't need to be Einstein to set-up and use. Even the other half uses it.

    If you have a big (open) AV cabinet / stand... And a very big room... And big speakers... Then 1010 would I'm sure provide a better sound, especially at high volumes. The 1010 is certainly superb value and a lovely looking / sounding Amp.

    I've replaced a Sony ES amp with the V773 and I can really only tell the difference in smoothness / delivery / power at extremely high volumes that you'd hardly ever use.
     
  22. dante01

    dante01
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2009
    Messages:
    46,611
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +11,232
    It should be pointed out that Airplay is only of use if using iTunes to serve audio to an AV amp. Airplay is reliant on iTunes and doesn't function without it running in the background on a connected Mac or IOS device. You can quite happily serve audio files over a DLNA/uPnP network to a network enabled AV amp without Airplay.
     
  23. Jarroda

    Jarroda
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2006
    Messages:
    815
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Ratings:
    +86
    Removing the tech talk...

    With airplay... On your iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch you just press one button and the media you are playing pipes directly to the Amp. The Amp even turns itself on and switches to Airplay automatically.

    You press this one button directly from the Music / video playback app. There's no need to go to another screen or look in menu options.

    You control the music playing directly from your iPhone / iPad. You can even control the volume of the Amp from your app too.

    You do not need to use the amp to do anything, or look in menu's in the amp or turn the TV on to see the Amp menu's. Nor do you need to have a PC turned on either. Everything is controlled from your iPhone / iPad. And there is no need to install any Apps from Yamaha to use AirPlay. It could not be any simpler.

    You can also use the same functionality from iTunes on your PC / MAC too.

    For me, having this feature in my new Amp was a must, but obviously it will be less relevant if your don't own an iPad / iPhone / iPod Touch.

    All the new 2012 Yamaha amps incorporate this, including the new 820 and 1020.

    There's an excellent demo of Airplay in action on Yamaha's website. Hopefully this link to it works.
     
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2012
  24. dante01

    dante01
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2009
    Messages:
    46,611
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +11,232
    Not without running iTunes on said Mac or PC you can't. Airplay is utterly reliant on iTunes. You also suggest it works if you've audio stored on a PC without having to power up the PC? This is categorically incorrect and you must have iTunes up and running on that PC or Mac to utilise Airplay!

    If you don't use iTunes to organise your audio files then Airplay is totally useless to you.
     
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2012
  25. Gizmo 76

    Gizmo 76
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2003
    Messages:
    2,236
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    116
    Location:
    The Apps are Calling :-S
    Ratings:
    +495
    AirPlay itself is not totally reliant on iTunes.

    You could happily use a subscription service like 'Spotify' or 'Rdio', and numerous other apps for audio. It is reliant on owning an Apple iDevice or computer to get a use from it though.

    But for me (and more so the girlfriend), the ability to be able to easily stream audio content from an iDevice to the AVR at the press off a button was a major plus point for the RX-V673.
     
  26. dante01

    dante01
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2009
    Messages:
    46,611
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +11,232
    In the case of a Mac (or PC) then you cannot stream anything via Airplay without having the Mac (or PC) powered up and iTunes running. I'm guessing you don't actually own a Mac or you'd know this. The audio files must actually be handled by iTunes and files not included in your iTunes library are not streamed via Airplay. You are also restricted to audio formats that are iTunes friendly.
     
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2012
  27. Gizmo 76

    Gizmo 76
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2003
    Messages:
    2,236
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    116
    Location:
    The Apps are Calling :-S
    Ratings:
    +495
    As I mentioned above - "It is reliant on owning an Apple iDevice or computer to get a use from it though.".

    But I was stating that AirPlay isn't reliant on iTunes. You could happily just own an iPod / iPhone / iPad in this PC free world (not my slogan :D ), and stream from this to your amp. It maybe stuff you've bought directly on the device or using main other 'Radio' or music subscription apps.

    To stream from your Mac or PC then yes iTunes is the most straight forward and best way to go for ease of use. There are other apps that would get around the need for iTunes, but I personally have nothing against iTunes so happily use it for all my media; also I own a couple of macs.

    So AirPlay is quite a nice feature to have for people who don't want to have a computer on serving their media, and still be able to stream across to the AVR at the press of a button.
     
  28. Jarroda

    Jarroda
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2006
    Messages:
    815
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Ratings:
    +86
    I think this is the main point. Only really the very technically minded are going to consider leaving a PC or NAS drive on to serve media. Whereas streaming from your iDevice to your Amp is child'splay for anyone, even the most technologically challenged / averse.

    If you don't need / want this feature then obviously you can purchase a 2011 amp and save some cash. :smashin: but having said that the 673 is dirt cheap at £350 ! I paid more for the V773 but really needed the dual HDMIs. I'm very happy with it, so no complaining here.
     
  29. dante01

    dante01
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2009
    Messages:
    46,611
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +11,232
    Get around? You are not prevented from using DLNA instead of Airplay and you cannot utilise Airplay without iTunes on a Mac or a PC. Neither can you serve files from a NAS via iTunes with your Mac powered down. FLAC files are not supported by iTunes either. I use iTunes, but still prefer to serve audio from a NAS via DLNA. This is no more complicated than it would be if using Airplay, having to have my Mac powered up and iTunes continually running.

    If using iOS devices then this is different and I'm hazarding that your music library on those devices is nowhere near as extensive as the audio library I keep on my NAS? Neither do I own any iOS devices. Even if I did then I'd be hard pushed to fit my music collection onto one.

    You can quite happily serve audio to a DLNA certified network enabled AV amp without Airplay, iTunes or an iOS device.

    The only advantage to me would be the ability to stream Apple Lossless via Airplay, but this is only advantageous because iTunes doesn't support FLAC files so the advantage only comes about because of the compromise that has to be made in order to use iTunes in the first place.
     
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2012
  30. johnmac1956

    johnmac1956
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2005
    Messages:
    270
    Products Owned:
    2
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    Location:
    East Yorkshire
    Ratings:
    +12
    I agree,this was a big selling point for me on the 673.

    Just listening to music at the moment fully controlled by 1 of my ipads.
     

Share This Page

Loading...