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Yamaha RX-A3060 9.2 Channel AV Receiver Review & Comments

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by Phil Hinton, Jan 1, 2017.


    1. Phil Hinton

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      always read that YPAO was not as GOOD as other calibration systems....
      on the other hand, yamaha is probably the most reliable/durable AVR's !
       
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      I think 11.2 onboard channels is now the standard and needing another amp seems clunky
       
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      Talking to installers, most I've chatted with have noted issues with 11 channel integrated amps... failure rates out in the field caused by overheating has been one issue. Others are saying (subjectively of course) that they have seen a drop in performance and reliability from manufacturers when they've attempted to jam in another two channels while keeping the price as low as possible.
       
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      Cheers Phil, great review - great start to 2017 since have been waiting to read this on avforums. 1st resolution for 17 is to upgrade my amp, this is on my list .

      May I wish you and all the team, and all on the forums the very best for 17
       
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      How does this amp compare to the much cheaper Marantz SR7011?
       
    8. Phil Hinton

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      I haven't heard the SR7011 in this room so can't answer that one. However having reviewed the similar Denon X3300 I would imagine a warmer, less neutral sound, but you'll need to demo both if you can.
       
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      I agree, you should go and demo one before spending £2k to listen to FM.
       
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      Is the Yamaha worth £800 more? I've seen the Marantz SR7011 for £1199 online.
       
    11. Phil Hinton

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      I would suggest only you can answer that question. If you can, go and listen to them, or try and get a home demo.
       
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      I think the pricing an anomaly here in the UK? The SR7011 sells for more than the Yamaha in the USA. Also note that the £1200 being quoted for the SR7011 is a discounted price and the actual suggested retail price is actually £1499. Yamaha receivers do appear to maintain their price when compared to other makes or maybe Yamaha are just less open to allowing retailers to advertise Yamaha receivers at the same kind of discounted prices as D&M are? The Yamaha will surpass the Marantz when it comes to both build quality and reliability. These 2 factors are probably why Yamaha receivers manage to maintain their prices and why they are generally slighly more expensive than their comparative competitors?
       
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      This and the marantz review both similarities in saying if you have the older models not worth the upgrade. Interesting..
       
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      Cheers for the review Phil, especially being upfront with the comparison.
      Enjoy Ces!!
       
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      Agreed. Happy that the sound similar enough that upgradeitis won't be a problem with my 3050
       
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      great review Phil, i noticed you never covered what are my alternatives at the end of the review, which is usual for avforums reviews these days
       
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      I listen to FM far more than watch HT so its very important for me. probably for others too. Its disappointing that FM is ignored.
       
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      Seeing as you diss multi channel avr's all the effin time, and have no interest in atmos etc, and bang on about FM, go listen to an arcam sr250.....2ch stereo audio visual reciever, it may be as fantastically excellent as the sony
       
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      my Yamaha 3050 sounds 'ok' in FM radio.

      My previous dedicated Tuner sounded better, but I'm all about clutter reduction these days, so the fewer boxes the better.

      Id say the sound of the Yamaha tuner is dry and lacking a bit of air and sparkle.

      Does the job though and pulls weak stations in well.
       
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      Good review. Seems like most of the major manufacturers are turning out really good high end receivers nowadays. Always good to have a decent choice with these things....cough AMD / Intel.......(please don't :censored: up Zen / Vega AMD)!

      I see that you mention YPAO wasn't of much use. I thought that YPAO was for the first time actually performing subwoofer EQ down to 15hz or so. So I guess that this wasn't too obvious or provided little to no benefit as far as you noticed? That is pretty disappointing :(.
       
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      I had the 3060 within a week or so after release, it's a great AVR, I did not however pay anything like RRP so do ring around for the best price.

      I also found that Ypao worked very well especially for the sub, my room is difficult but it sounds very good to me, I do not like the default peq of 'Flat' after running Ypao though, I'm using 'Front'.

      I use internet radio which sounds much better than FM, overall in very happy with it!.
       
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      Avf reviews are great but I have often wondered if say all receivers could be reviewed by the same person, obviously difficult to do I appreciate that but some comparisons maybe better. Just a thought.

      One thing that was brought to my attention from a couple of forum members is that the front HDMI isn't hdcp2.2, I think it's v1.4 as I'm able to watch UHD blu Ray from my 4K player through this port to my 1080p displays, the rear HDMI ports I cannot.
       
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      So no harm in passing on the price you paid and the retailer
       
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      Yamaha RX-A3060 vs Denon X6300-H...... Best sound??
       
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      I wonder how much better the 3060 would be over my 3010.

      I'm not convinced Atmos would add that much to my listening enjoyment (currently 5.1) especially when I could only use upfiring speakers like KEFs R50 sat on my CM4s. £2.5K for the 3060 plus a pair of R50s seems a hell of a lot of money for very little gain.
       
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      Arcam not in the same league,nor anything else I have heard so far, only interested in 5 channel sound, video and stereo.
       
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      as expected as the FM on the Yamaha 860 is for me unlistenable, so it seems they are using the same poor quality FM on all models. The FM tuner on my Sony is as good as my excellent dedicated Technics tuner. Fortunately I am no longer in the market for a new receiver.
       
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      Good to know you are happy with YPAO. I always thought it did a pretty good job at taming some of the flutterecho I would get in my room and not noticeably at the expense of sound quality elsewhere.

      I would very much expect this to be the case regarding FM Tuners on recent AVR's. And I would say that in most people's cases, given the prevalence of reasonable internet connectivity now and internet radio I would much rather my money goes to things like better build quality / amps than a good FM tuner. Especially at the cheaper end of the market. I won't be at all surprised if the tuners are scrapped completely in the next few years.

      I appreciate for some people that do use them this will be a major pain and will mean having to continue using older hardware specifically for this function. However I expect that the amount of people genuinely needing a FM tuner on their receiver will continue to decrease steadily.
       
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      Is BBC 3 sound any better or as good from the Internet as one gets from a Ist class dedicated FM tuner ?
       
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      I know you're a troll but I'll bite while I eat my breakfast.

      How long is a piece of string?

      Depends on a huge number of variables not limited to, weather, distance from the aerial, transmitter equipment, receiver equipment, the individual listening to the music, the source material and a lot more besides.

      That said, this is taken from the BBC's website.

      "HD Sound


      Radio 3 is the first BBC radio station to offer 'HD' quality streams for both live and on demand listening.


      What is HD Sound?


      HD sound means High Definition sound.

      Sound reaches our ears via analogue sound waves. However processing these sound waves electronically tends to distort their original shape. Modern digital processing is much less distorting. The conversion of an analogue signal to a digital signal is achieved by sampling the sound waves. We are now delivering the sampled 'HD' sound at a rate of 320 kb/s (AAC), which delivers more audio information and results in better sound, compared to the previous rate of 192 kb/s.


      What is the best way of listening to Radio 3 HD?


      If you listen on the small speakers built into a laptop you're unlikely to notice a big difference, but if your computer is connected to a good-quality sound system or high-quality headphones we think you'll appreciate the extra clarity and detail in the sound.


      If you are having problems receiving HD Sound on your internet radio or connected hifi device as a result of the recent changes made in the BBC’s audio streams, cut and paste the following link and add it to your player or the stream list in your internet radio:


      http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediasel...-aac-lc-a/format/pls/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls"

      So I would suggest there will be very little difference to listening in FM and in fact you might actually find listening to the stream is better, all things considered.

      G
       

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