Yamaha DSP-AX1 vs RX-V1400/ help

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  1. chemer

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    I want to buy one of those two receivers
    dsp-ax1 is used and rx-v1400 is new
    their price is same now
    because I don`t have chance to hear them
    I need your help to decide
    my interests are both stereo and sorround
    thanks
     
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    Going on an age thing I would say that the 1400 will be significantly better in stereo than the AX1. They will both be superb in H/C but the 1400 will have more surround modes and I would hope be better with it all as well and it has THX if thats important to you. :smashin:

    Please bear in mind I havent heard an AX1 to compare it against. I have the 1400 and rate it as excellant:D
     
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    The DSPAX1 will have less surround options No DDEX, no DTSES and No pro-logicII but it has some monster amplifiers and an excellent quality of amplifier. So it would depend on wether you will mis the surround modes or miss the quality!
     
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    Depends on your speakers, if they are more difficult to drive you may find the AX1 would be better if it has meatier power amps (which it should). btw, don't pay anymore than £450 for an AX1 either...they aren't worth any more money.
     
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    heya mate, i dont wana ruin anything here but i work in hifi retail and we stock the yamaha rxv2400, this is 1000 product and its a complete dog of an amp! if you want somthing good with music lisen to the arcam avr300 or if you want movies look at the rotel range of intergrated amps, there suprisingly good this year. also look at pioneer ax3 or ax5I and if you can put up with its rubbish remote the denon avr3805 is cool and the mic setup is better than the pioneer. hope this helps mate. pm me if you need any advice
     
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    It might be more helpful to be a little more specific?
     
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    I can help - he's talking absolute nonsense.

    You might well work in hi-fi retail dvddude, but coming out statements like that marks you out as pretty clueless.
     
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    thanks for your reply
    at first my choice was pioneer VSX-AX3 vs Yamaha RX-V1400
    it is too bad because I can`t hear them
    what is your opinion
     
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    The 1400 is the one to go for. Tons of fun auditioned both and would have gone for the 1400 over the ax3 if he could have afforded it. The AX3 is not very good in stereo while the 1400 does everything superbly. There are amps better in stereo but they can cost much more eg.AVR300 etc.
     
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    Well, maybe not much help, but I upgraded from an AX1 to the Parasound kit you see below. Now, I'd be mad to say that my new kit wasn't better, but, believe me, not by a massive amount.
    If I was spending my money again, I'd seriously look at what I actually wanted from my kit. Do you have a rear centre? Is PL11X important? (or even PL11, as the ax1 doesn't have that) If the answers to these are no, I would suggest that £450 for a second hand AX1 was a good choice. Oh, and I ran my M&K's from the AX1 no problem.
    I would also say, from my limited experience, that far too much emphasis is placed on surround modes, what chips are used in the processor etc. The quality of the power amp is what will determine whether you have a believable movie sound stage or not (IMO of course!) - I found this out after running the AX1 as a processor with the A51 power amp. Switching to the C2 processor was not as big a leap.
    Also (sorry to go on here!!), after a few forum trades, I am 100% committed to the quality second hand market. I can guarantee you will feel better having bought (say) an AX1 s/h than the current flavour of the month.
     
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    Philly talks a lot of sense there.
     
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    You've obviously not read any of my posts then lol!!
     
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    :hiya: Hi new to your forums - I have the Yam RX1400RDS, its set up in a 9.2 format. 2 rear, 2 rear sides, 2 front ceiling mounted "prescence", Front l/r and centre, and 2 subs. Most of the speakers are Mordaunt shorts. I have had the RX1400 2 months now as an upgrade from my trusty old kenwood.
    I can only say that it has been an exhilirating purchase.
    Personally (very), I would recommend the yamaha whole heartedly. the THX setup, DD5.1 EX, DTS es, et al and more are superb. This is now my 3rd HC amp/rec, and after watching a few choice "reference DVD's" I shall be with the yammy for the long haul. :thumbsup:
     
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    Paraphrases everything I would have said :). The only spanner in the works is the arrival of the VSX-2014 which should address the principle shortcomings of the AX3, ie the poor stereo performance and the limited video switching on the current model. Of course this new model won't be as cheap as the AX3 is currently.
     
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    ehayde - 9.2! That sounds sweeeeet as! If only I had the room (and £££) :D

    Got the 1400 myself, and it is mint! I seem to have noticed too a subtle but improved difference after having run it now for a couple of months. :smashin:
     
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    hi there, how do you get the 9.1 working because i just talked to yamaha tech department and they said for the yam 2400 you can't have both the surround back and the presence working at the same time.

    thanks

    CaM
     
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    from the avsforums....

    Basically if you are using an external amp to attempt to power the Presence or Surround Back Channels, you are simply mirroring the internal selected channels of the RX-V2400 to another set of speakers. I thought everyone here would like to know.

    I wish it could do 9.1!!

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    thanks a lot
    I think that my choice will be RX-V1400
    but I will wait a little longer because new model 1500 is finished
    and 1400 will be real cheap
     
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    It already is cheap - if you wait too long you might find there's none left.
     
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    Yeah like me waiting for superfi to get the RX-V2400 back in stock :( would it be worth dropping to the RX-V1400 rather then waiting? would i be losing much? i know i would be saving around £150 cheers
     
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    I can't see you noticing that much - I demo'd both and the 1400 was the one I bought.
     
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    What swade you to go for thr RX-V1400 was it the price difference or performance? cheers
     
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    :) wotcha Cameron - Yammy tech dept quite right. my system is bi-wired to all available speaker 0/p. The beauty of this is choice, depending on your mood, available material (Cd,DVD,TV,Sat,Radio,S-VHS,cassette),and the materials coding - you can get the yammy to sing. It has so many useful dsp's, plus the added bonus of latest firmware (DD5.1 EX, DTS-ES, DD-PL11x_etc). the max achievable is 7.1 (or 7.2 in my set up) - try opening DTS sequence of Saving Private Ryan - yeeehaa.
    Just taken some digi pics of my home cinema set up - can anyone tell me how to get to the "my kit pics" section on this forum please - I would love to get some feedback from you guys on my labours so far. :thumbsup:
     
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    either you use the "manage attachments" button in additional options under the "reply to thread" box (not quick reply) or upload them to webspace somewhere and post the links to the forum. :thumbsup:
     
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    A bit of both to be honest - the 1400 was £640 when I was buying it, whereas the 2400 was £940, and I couldn't hear any difference.
     
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    That made me feel better RH got my 2400 for £689 and love it. I don't understand all of it, but I love .

    :rtfm: many times .....still it a great sound thanks to Dfour for his speaker recommendations.
     
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    Well the deed is done (at last lol) placed my order with superfi today and will have me stuff by Monday so i`m told (fingers crossed) but i would like to take the time to thank a few of you guys who have helped me make my changeable mind up so Radiohead, sharper and Dfour and anyone else that i may have not mentioned cheers to all (so if it`s all crap i`ll be round to see you 3 lol) kiding aside thanks these forums have been a great help :)
     
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    A pleasure Colonel - hope you enjoy it

    :)
     
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    oh oh its`s here gotta go mr at door :D
     

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