I state in the review that as a combo there is nothing that gets close to the features (including all 11 channels of amplification) and performance for the same or similar price point/outlay.
As stated in the opening paragraphs of the review, they are both £2499 each.
I think the bundle deal advertised was for the CX-A5000 and MX-A5000. The old processor in other words.A little while ago I could have sworn I found both as a bundle for £2500 and if I knew then what I know now, I would have jumped on it immediately!
I think the bundle deal advertised was for the CX-A5000 and MX-A5000. The old processor in other words.
AudioControl Maestro M9 and their power amps gets close... Its a version of the AVR850/550 but no inbuilt processing.Basically if I could have bastard child of the CX-A5100/MX-A5000, the Arcam AVR850 and other misc. I would be a very happy man.
Would have:
- Pre-pro/amp separation as CX-A5100/MX-A5000
- 3 x HDMI outs (for TV/PJ and seperate room out)
- All the balanced XLR in/outs as CX-A5100 (with dual sub out and extra stereo in)
- 11 channel amp as MX-A5000 but with Arcams Class G amps for all channels and more power/headroom
- Channel level meters LED display on amp as ADA amps.
- Arcams Dirac Live room processing on all channels
- Interface / menus from neither! (anyone have a suggestion here?)
- Front panel display design from neither! (anyone have a suggestion here? My own Onkyo is not bad just bigger panel maybe)
Who knows ... Yamaha don't give any figures for all channels driven and none of the tests I've found properly measured the power amplifier.Hi can some one help me I'm trying to figure out what the wattage is at 4 ohms with all 11 channels driven
Just a general observation rather than any direct experience... but with some other room correction systems (I think it was DIRAC) it was recommended that if you have something like a Velodyne SMS-1, that you use that to correct the subs FIRST, then run the AVR/Processor's room correction SECOND.While YPAO RSC did a good job with the higher frequencies, it had no impact on the subs. I get around this by using a Velodyne SMS-1 for sub eq.
AudioControl Maestro M9 and their power amps gets close... Its a version of the AVR850/550 but no inbuilt processing.
1,2 and 6 match fully. 3 - balanced out for main 7 plus sub and 2 pairs of balanced inputs. 4 - a 7 and a 5 channel amplifier are available and suit (5) too.
Can't help with 7 & 8 as the interface is identical to Arcam.
Oh the problem - they cost a LOT more!
Yeah the specs like very good. So what extortionate price are they looking for those pre-amps and amps then for a laugh?
I think they are something like $9500 USD.Yeah the specs like very good. So what extortionate price are they looking for those pre-amps and amps then for a laugh?
Sorry was meant to say ... no inbuilt power ampsAlso what do you mean by "a version of the AVR850/550 but no inbuilt processing" - what processesing are you talking about it doesn't have that AVR850 has?
Arcam build the digital electronics, then Audiocontrol build them into their own assembly with their own tweaks (such as the balanced input and outputs).Strange as you say it uses same two line dot matrix display on front as Arcam - are they same company with two divisions?
I think they are something like $9500 USD.
Sorry was meant to say ... no inbuilt power amps
Arcam build the digital electronics, then Audiocontrol build them into their own assembly with their own tweaks (such as the balanced input and outputs).
Well as I have commented (maybe not in this thread) but Arcam did do a separate processor and power amp (the AV950 and P777) ... But the processor was significantly more than the AV750/450 it was based on (albeit with better DAC for 2 channel). So the question is (and equally demonstrated by Anthem) how much are you willing to spend to get balanced interconnects which are in most circumstances completely pointless!Whoa that's some price alright if as you say they take the Arcam base and tweak it with a few extras! So I presume they are using Arcam Class G amps internally too then.
I find it very strange that Arcam don't produce any receiver with balanced in/outs or any split pre and power units at all. Surely there would be a big market for an Arcam 7 or 9 channel Class G power amp with balanced in etc. similar to the Yamaha unit or any or the ADA ones. Or an Arcam pre-amp with Dirac for people who already have 5 and 7 channel power amps who want latest Atmos/Dirac combination pre-unit...
So the question is (and equally demonstrated by Anthem) how much are you willing to spend to get balanced interconnects which are in most circumstances completely pointless!
What's the model no. of the remote control for the a5100?