I was going to buy Onkyo 609, but after reading about the problems people are having with them, I went and listened to : onkyo 609, yamaha 671, pioneer 921 and Denon 2312. I felt the Onkyo was full of gadgets I would never use with the sound not as good as the rest. The Pioneer did not sound as warm . The Denon was very good but was dearer. I need an AVR that is good for watching TV ,movies and also I can plug in an ipod. The Yamaha fitted the bill as I felt the sound was better than the rest , they had not filled it with things I would never use but they had spent that money on producing an AVR that sounds fantastic for the money. This was a personal choice but I would recommend to go and listen to at least a couple of AVR 's before deciding solely on reviews. I have had it for 2 weeks so far and it just gets better . It replaced a 10 year old Sony .