Yale Smart Connected Door Locks.

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  1. PRESSTOG

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    Finally got around to fitting some Smart Connected locks to the external doors.

    Connected a Yale Conexis L1 To the UPVC BackDoor
    Connected a Yale Smart Living Latch Lock to the Wooden Front Door.

    Both upgraded with Z Wave Units for Internet Connectivity

    Let me first say my DIY Skills are atrocious so even though the Conexis L1 for UPVC said all you need is screwdriver I was still thinking about calling in a tradesman to fit it.

    But decided to give it a go, took about 30mins following the Yale online videos to get it fitted and another 30mins to pair up phones and fobs etc.

    I dont have a latch on the front door, so this one was more complicated drilling 20 and 32mm holes in the wooden door, and chiselling the frame to fit the catch. But anyway emboldened by the ease of the PVC one I decided to give it go. Took just over an hour once I got the drills and chisel, and having assembled it once taking it apart again as I had missed out a left right turn key panel.

    But must say am impressed from buying the kit in B&Q at 2pm by 4.30pm it was all installed and working

    So my advice is if you fancy these but are a bit of a DIY dumbo (Like me) Give it a go take it slow and follow the video guides. Saves paying a tradesman to do it.

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    I need to install a Z Wave (Samsung or similar hub on my router for internet control) I already have a Phillips Hue one, but this needs its own one. (Anyone recommend a decent option)

    And anyone having installed these have any tips or comment on reliability of internet connection etc.

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    Do these automatically unlock with your phone or does that also require a hub install to work.
     
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    The Conexis L1 (UPV Doors) one does but the Smart Latch one (Wooden Doors) needs to be connected to the hub to do it.
     
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    Does it? I've had it installed for a few months. I know you can use your phone to unlock the door using that stupid "twist and go" function. But it doesn't detect when you're nearby and unlock your door or unlock via a button press on an app on your phone.

    I installed the remote module and use the remote fob to unlock the door (kinda like you do with a car).
     
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    Sorry I meant it can use Bluetooth from the phone to unlock and download data as standard. You can use the activate key function rather than the twist to unlock in the Yale app


    For full internet connectivity you need the zwave module still
     
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    Definetly thinking about this, but read some good/bad reviews

    If anything were to happen, is there a way to open the door if things fail?

    My worry would be to always carry my backdoor key which defeats the purpose really
     
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    There’s a battery connector at the base of the outside section of the handle. If the internal batteries run out, you attach a 9v battery to this and can then still open the door with a fob, phone, card etc. I still have a back door key with me and a spare card in the car incase of emergencies.
     
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    Last question...

    Does fitting this void or potentially damage your house insurance?

    I would hate to (touch wood) be robbed again and the insurance company didn’t pay out due to this lock being fitted
     
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    Only your insurance company can answer that I guess.
     
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    How quiet is it in operation? I read that the manual override on the exit side can be difficult to operate for persons with limited dexterity (e.g. older persons) - any comments?
     
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    I normally unlock mine with my phone and have a widget on the homescreen I use so just push widget as getting out of car and door is unlocked by the time I walk up to it, only then a case of twisting the handle.

    I found the RFID frob awkward but only because I have 3 of them on my keyring (One for the door and 2 for car charge points), and this seems to confuse the lock if the yale one is not held well away fron the others.

    After a couple of months of use I really would not go back.

    I have put a Samsung Smartthings Multisensor on the door as well so when someone knocks (The sensor picks up the vibration), on the door It sends a text and push message to my phone and flashes the lights in the garage and shed, as in the garden shed or garage I cant hear if anyone is at the door, thats really worked well.

    Thinking about a Ring Doorbell now, that way I will be able to release the door lock when I am out if Amazon or Postie want to leave an item inside the front door.
     
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    I spoke to my insurance company today (Admiral) and they would not be happy insuring me with a smart lock as primary means of securing the premises.

    From Yale's website

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    Does the Yale ‘Keyless’ Smart Door lock conform to a British Standard? No, this product does not currently have an insurance rating. However like our Standard range of Nightlatches, you can combine the convenient feature of ‘keyless’ with a 5 lever ‘BS3621’ mortice lock to satisfy most insurance company requirements. Please always check with your insurer to be certain of their T’s and C’s.
     
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    The Yale Connexis that I have is basically just a handle for the multipoint door lock mechanism on my door. If I put the handle back on that the builder used, it's effectively still secured by the same physical means. Just a different method of unlocking.
     
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    The insurance comments were about the nightlatch type lock not the multipoint

    I checked with my insurer (Halifax) and they are happy with both so it varies by insurer
     
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    @leebroath - I'm selling my lock if you're interested?

    For Sale - Yale Conexis L1 Smart Lock
     
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    Thanks Mark, I’m not getting one yet but cheers for the offer :)
     

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