XTZ S2 Atmosphere ceiling mounted

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  1. Venrith

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    Hi all,

    Just wondering if anyone has XTZ Cinema S2 Atmosphere speakers that are ceiling mounted? I can't find any photos of them up on a ceiling and was wondering how they looked before I buy a set to go with my apex setup for atmos duties. Also interested to hear about how easy they are to place on a ceiling, as they seem to have an angle to them but that could mean that I need to find the perfect spot for them? (which might not be possible due to where the joists are etc)

    Cheers
     
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    Thanks, I'll drop him a pm
     
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    I have the S2 ceiling mounted, they look great. You will need to factor in a flush mount bracket though for each one, the bracket also means they don't sit totally flush to the ceiling, there's a gap but it's not that noticeable.

    Fitting was easy, if you have a joist where you want them then that is better for the screws to grip into. Personally I had to hold a piece of wood in the loft while someone else screwed the screws in, that way they go through the plasterboard and into a square of wood, no chance the screws will fall out.
     
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    Ah nice, Well I did wonder if they might be too heavy for just the plasterboard to hold.

    I guess Atmos isn't too fussy on placement? I have a 2 seater sofa so I can't really make a perfect center seating position but I was thinking to the left and right of the sofa somewhat forward of the seating position and see if I can squeeze in 2 at the back which would be almost overhead.

    I shall try to get into the loft to find out exactly where the joists are to see if I can place them where I want.

    Thanks
     
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    Plasterboard will hold them if you use the correct plasterboard fixings.
     
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    Right, So to give you an idea of what I have to work with, I am wondering if I can get away with 5.1.4 or if I should just play it safe with 5.1.2.

    Just looking at where rear speakers might go I am thinking up on the ceiling next to the oculus sensor (which I need to tidy the wire up) My ears are about 1.5-2ft from the back wall not inc the window bit
    IMG_20180816_151117.jpg
    As you can see not a huge amount of space behind, I can't really move it much further forward because of other constraints
    IMG_20180816_151124.jpg

    I am thinking (depends where joists are) to put one on each side of the ceiling fan.
    IMG_20180816_151158.jpg

    A rough sketch of the room, S2 placement in blue roughly (depends on where I can fix them)
    RoomSketcher Blue for atmos.jpg

    So yes it's between that or just settle for 2 just to the front and side of mlp and stick to 5.1.2, but I would love to hear those overheard panning effects etc
     
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    5.1.2 in your setup is definitely the way to do. You need to have space behind you for .4
     
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    Thanks, It's a shame as I would have loved the 4 for panning stuff but if it won't work then it's better not to waste money. I am guessing there isn't such thing as front heights combined with the 2 above as per what you said in pm? I guess having high fronts would ruin the whole sound above thing.

    I have done some more research into plasterboard fixings, Would something like this do? https://www.screwfix.com/p/rawlplug-hollow-wall-anchors-m4-x-40mm-20-pack/54782

    Thanks
     
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    I don’t believe front heights are utilized by any receiver anymore, I think you may have misinterpreted what I said earlier.

    These plugs will do the job, the metal ones require too big a hole and can be a real pain to work with.

    https://www.screwfix.com/p/fischer-plasterboard-plugs-hdf-10-x-100-pack/58219

    The key to using these plugs correctly is to make sure you don’t over tighten them.
     
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    Thanks, I will get 2 speakers then and mount them at about 60-80 degrees from the MLP but off to the side to avoid the ceiling fan :)
     
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    What about having S2 Atmospheres as FH and TM?

    5.1.4 couch against wall with Front Height and Top Middle (part of Dolby spec). @Seriously Ltd system (incomplete in picture).

    Post #21 gives Allan`s thoughts about it.
    Atmos with seating against the wall

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    I did think about that for awhile, Even considered A10's for the job, But I hear that gives a nice wrapping immersion but I think I want to experience the proper overhead sounds like rain coming from above etc and most people say you really need upfiring or ceiling speakers to do that
     
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    Angle seems extreme, do you mean 30 to 40 degree as the angle from MLP to the speaker, 60 to 80 puts the speaker at the front of the room or are you talking from speaker to MLP??
    Might be me but I am a bit confused
     
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    That was a system I was experimenting with when object based audio appeared. It works extremely well and if we can’t install heights in ceiling then FH and RH does work well.
     
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    The angles for 5.1.2 are more extreme than those of 5.1.4
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    Thanks, got it and makes sense...
     
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    I'm contemplating using the S2 as side surrounds just above ear level.
    Anyone using them as side surrounds?
     
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    Stretch your budget and go for the S5s, they are awesome as surrounds.
     
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    That’s a big stretch. :(
     
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    Yes, but so worth it!
     

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