XTZ 12.17 Subwoofer thread

XxSLYxx

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Well you have 30days buy&try with the XTZ sub so try it out at home. :) Sanjualf had the SB2000 and as you probably know he liked 12.17 better. If you are eyeing sealed subwoofer then Arendal Sub 1 can´t be forgotten. Around ~800£ shipped to home (LSound.eu free shipping?) so same price as SB2000, but Arendal claims they have better cabinet (HDF over MDF), better amp components and overall the sound quality is better (more dynamic and cleaner). Tough call. :)
I think the main reason for still wanting to demo the sb2000 is being able to just walk into a shop and to not depend on the post so much considering about the only thing iv ordered off the web is an hd cable.lol, if I knew for definite I wanted a sealed sub I think the arendal would be top of my list considering what's been said about it and how good it is, but have a deep down feeling that ported would win the day since I luv those luscious subtle low tones and then with the edge I could then just plug it up if needed for a more sealy sound. Could also just be me wanting to sow my subwoofer oats and see what different ones sound like.lol. but your dead right tis gonna be a difficult decision.
 
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XxSLYxx

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My friend Runs a single PB1200 Ultra and it sounds reasonable, but every time he hears my Dual 12.17's (EDGE) it blows his mind, more so at the accuracy of Bass as well as Depth when required.

In comparison the PB1200 Ultra sounds a bit dull and sluggish despite us trying many Eq and room tuning/placement options.

I definitely wouldn't go for dual PB1200's in my Room.
A man with ultras get his mind blown by these edges. Very encouraging.
 
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tebbo65

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Duel Edge 12.17's = deep, punchy, clean, well balanced and the nuts Bass.

Do the bass hack though.....makes a difference ;)
 
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tebbo65

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Have a look at this for an explanation

It's all about opening up the gain as much as possible on the sub so it's not throttled back.
 

Racy Jace

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Have a look at this for an explanation

It's all about opening up the gain as much as possible on the sub so it's not throttled back.

A few posts back I was experimenting with the gain levels and I posted about the change in sound characteristics I found so I can vouch for this so called hack. Going from this video then I think I'll try setting my AVR even lower to -12 and see if it increases punch even more.
 

Gasp3621

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A few posts back I was experimenting with the gain levels and I posted about the change in sound characteristics I found so I can vouch for this so called hack. Going from this video then I think I'll try setting my AVR even lower to -12 and see if it increases punch even more.
Don´t go till max figure as it will give you error and you don´t know is it -20 or -12 (if that is max figure). Example Audussey rep has said that anything from -11.5 to lower figure is fine (-12 is out of range on D&M receivers).

SVS recommendation;

The desired AVR subwoofer channel level after running auto-set-up is in the -8 to -4 range (typically on a scale of -12 to +12).

If the post-set-up AVR subwoofer channel level is bottomed out at the minimum setting (usually -12), that means the subwoofer volume was set too high. Reduce the subwoofer volume accordingly and re-run set-up. If the post-set-up AVR subwoofer channel level is in the positive region, that means the subwoofer volume was set too low. Increase the subwoofer volume accordingly and re-run set-up.
 

Racy Jace

Active Member
Don´t go till max figure as it will give you error and you don´t know is it -20 or -12 (if that is max figure). Example Audussey rep has said that anything from -11.5 to lower figure is fine (-12 is out of range on D&M receivers).

SVS recommendation;
My Yamaha goes to -10db but I should be able to run ypao to reach -9.5--8.5db with out getting an error as you rush e the sub gain. The other thing is do I need to run ypao again? I have a dB meter so I'm thinking if I take a dB reading as it is now with the test tone then alter the gains, the out put will remain the same but my AVR will be lower and the xtz gain will be higher.
 
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