I was over in the US last week and paid a visit to a Gamestop store to get an update on the 360 launch. They were taking pre orders and had been told how many consoles the store should be getting. The guy I spoke to said they would be receiving stock "Sometime in November" and they had been told the console will retail at $300 - $500 dollars. He said they had taken over 200 pre orders and were reaching their limit. Also they are pretty sure they will only be getting one shipment of consoles before Christmas Looks like the US route could be out for those of us thinking of importing.