x-box........

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  1. buns

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    I am becoming fascinated by this little piece of kit! Does anyone have any idea what the software support will be? when are we likely to get i over here in the uk? Apart from the obvious voltage/frequency and the ntsc signal.....are there any problems importing one of these.....might there be even! I am going to be in the US in late october so wondered twhat possible problems may be.....are games going to be 'regionally coded' for want of a better term??

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    As far as I know the X Box will be released in the US around 5th November and then in spring 2002 here in the UK. If you got one imported from the USA, (eg: from Another World) or if you buy one while you are in the States, you would need to buy a step down transformer (around £25) and have a tv that accepts NTSC input plus you could only play US games as they will be regionally coded. Of course something may appear on the market that overcomes this obstacle but at the present time I don't know of anything out there. As far as software support goes, my own personal opinion is that many games will be PC conversions, although some games developers are designing games specifically for the X Box platform. In the war between the X Box and the Nintendo Game Cube, the X Box is the better machine technically, but that does not necessarily mean it will be better. Nintendo have always made games for people who love games. Microsoft make (very good) software to enhance the way people work. I am not convinced that the X Box is being launched for the good of console gamers. Again, a personal opinion. Hope this helps!

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    its out on Nov 8th in the US and spring in the UK, head over to <a href="http://www.planetxbox.com" target="_blank">www.planetxbox.com</a> for answers to all you questions on the XboX
     
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    What should be of more interest to us Home Cinema enthusiasts is that the Xbox is currently the only console that will be able to deliver in game 5.1 channel audio on the fly. This could potentialy revolutionise in game audio.

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  5. buns

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    I buy region 1 dvds all the timne so i guess there is no reason why i cant buy region 1 games either.....and the x-box is really only a pc in a funny box.....so the issue of whether someone will hack the problem is not an issue of if, rather an issue of when!

    Did I read something a while back suggestng it may be capable of prog scan?

    I can see where my first loan installment is going!

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    For more on the X-BOX, use a good quality search enginge ( Google, Yahoo etc. ) and enter

    CD32

    read and smile how similar the stories behind the two machines are
     
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    i would have done that..... but i way prefer an active discussion, far more likely to find out the nuances of the subject that way!

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    I was actually being truthful in the above comment.

    I purchased a CD32 on day of release and still have it ( in a box hidden in attic with all the other "impulse" buys )

    but whilst having a tidy in said attic I found all my old computer mags for the time of development and release of the CD32. Everything that was written about it is almost ( even word for word ) the same as is being said about the XBOX ! The only difference is the technology being used in development.

    It will be sad if the same thing happens, as competion among consoles is a good thing, but I really can see the XBOX going the way of CD32, maybe just not as quick

    You can have your console as powerful as you like, load it up with cool gadgets and make it look real snazzy, you can put as many logos ( DOLBY, DTS, DVD, CD etc ) as you want on the front but to be succesful a console needs that specila secret formula. The Gameboy has it, the original playstaion has it, the playstation two is starting to have it but I thing the XBOX will not have IT !

    See, hows that for helping your discussion <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
     
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    I wouldn;t write Xbox off just yet..Sure it's gonna have PC conversions..but some would say that's good. It's also getting plenty of third party support from the Jap big-boys like Namco, Konami and Capcom and that's what really counts..and as for 5.1 in gaming..this should further enhance the cross over between home cinema and gaming..Square tried to play with it in Bouncer and Final Fantasy X but it was a farce..Xbox have the rights to the technology from Dolby and I really hope it gets used..a lot..<br />I have PS2 and I'll have a GameCube in three weeks (Jap) and I will definately get an Xbox even just for the Sega games coming to it..<br />This of course is my opinion only..
     
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    you cant even compare x box to a cd 32 for one the cd32 had no decent games developers konami capcom etc.all it had was stuff that was out already on the amiga 1200 an they just dolled up the graphics point to it was an amiga lol i still cant believe it sold at all.bill gates does not mess about an i think the ps2 is a very very very long way of what was promised.gamecube an xbox for the title is my prediction because quite frankly apart from winning 11 five or iss as its known in this country an metal gear solid 7 lol oh an dont forget resident evil 12.all the ps2 has is sequels an no ideas
     
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    Can't wait to play "Microsoft Trainspotter" on the X box in 5.1!!<br />Get real people. I remember shelling out on the playstation when it first came out. It took about 2 years until I played my first decent game (resident evil or tomb raider - you pick). I have done the same with the PS 2 and am willing to wait the time it takes for decent software. Sony are not stupid. That port on the back and those holes on the front of the PS2 are not for show you know. Once Xbox comes along with all the bits in that ARE NOT upgradeable (Dreamcast anyone?), Sony will release all the add ons (broadband etc) that will leave Mr Gates dead in the water. Plus they will have a year start in the software department as well.
     
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    Also it will depend on how big the console is in the Eastern market.

    The popular consoles are always those which go down big with the ( bizarre ! ) game fans over in Japan, for the XBOX to really succeed it will have to do a lot of work to try to apeal to the huge market over there. This is again something which the CD32 should have done ( tried to do ) and failed.

    One thing Sony must do is not become complacent.
     
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    Europe combined is a bigger market than either Japan or the US. This is one reason Micorsoft are building a specific factory in Hungary to produce European models. I think you'll find Microsoft are only really interested in the US and Europe..In Europe they'll wipe GameCube out and the US is big enough (and rich enough) to support more than two consoles..<br />I think it's very early to write Xbox off...at least wait until it's out..After all it;s the gamers that'll decide if it's a success or not..and they'll decide once the games start to show...

    [ 06-09-2001: Message edited by: museumsteve ]</p>
     
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    "Europe is a bigger market than Japan and the US combined"

    <br />???

    Eh museumsteve , NO
     
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    Just more fuel for the fire; I went to ECTS today, and got my hands on Xbox and GameCube controllers, and let me just say this; one of them is like holding you penis, the other is like holding a mis-shapen bulbous reject from Lost in Space. If MS have designed their console like they have their controller, Nintendo and SONY will be laughing...
     
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    if this years ects , reflects the state of the market in videogames in the uk and europe , than I m not going to hold my hopes . This years exhibition was the biggest farce I ve ever seen , I m really sorry I even took the time off to go. I might just have to take a week of next year and visit E3 instead.

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    I don't think the x-box is cd32 mk2 it's 3DO mk.2 and nobody will be releasing games for it in 2 years time.
     
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    pronkie &gt; i don't think it was representative of the industry. There was no Nintendo, SONY, or EA, Codemasters and Midway were behind closed doors, the Intel stand was about 40 times smaller than it was last year, and the scantily clad women numbered about 4. ECTS this year WAS crap, but I think the stuff coming to GameCube and PS2 will really open some people's eyes.
     
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    I know it wasnt exactly representative,it was meant tongue in cheek, but it is sad that the whole industry decides it needs to save pennies and cut down on promotion budget or not come all together. Me as a retailer, I need to know whats happening in the next year and reading trade press and games magazines just doesnt cut it for that. About the most interesting stand for me there was the ATI stand with the Radeons 8500 and 7500 on it.I ve been going to ects for the last five years and things sort of started changing last year.It has turned into a meeting place for journalists and developers with no real space for other trades. I just think its a waste , cause it used to be a real happy , happening kind of place. This year was just , well sad.

    On another note I was favouring Microsoft to be the new king of games , but with nintendo I think they are going to have a real battle on their hands, I really think nintendo actually got its act together this time, they might not win the war but they'll win the battle ie. they will make a healthy profit , wheras there is a big question if microsoft or sony are going to make any profit at all for a long time.

    sorry for this rant but had to get it off me chest

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    sorry...my mistake...what I meant to say was that Europe combined is a bigger market than either Japan or the US..and therefore Microsoft may look to Europe as the foothold for Xbox and not necessarily elsewhere..
     
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    Lets face facts. If the X-box dont sell well what do you think Billy big balls wil do? Turn round and say oh well never mind, we've still got Windows to fall back on. What sells a console is its games, nothing else, so what has Mr gates done? Well he went out and bought into quite a few softwear houses thats what. Not only does he own Microsoft, but he has the support of nearly every other software company and has interests in many others. The X-Box is here to stay, it has the harware, the software and the financial backing of the richest man in the world. How much more convincing do you want?
     
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    i have to disagree about the games being the important thing about a console.if this was true then the dreamcast would still be around an the playstation2 would be dead.apart from winning11 5 <br />and metal gear solid 2 there isnt a lot out there an gran turismo is no big leap from the second version an the floor effects look terrible for a next generation console.i do like the playstation2 but i was expecting more so im holding on for the xbox to see if that can do the business for me.also does anyone know if the gamecube is gonna be another kids console or will they release some none kids games.
     
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    Yes, another WE5 fan. Winning Eleven 5 is the best game i've ever played, so lifelike, and yet easy to play. Played 4 player last night (for like the 2835th time this month), we were 2-0 down with 20 minutes to go, and managed to win 2-3 with an 89th minute chip over the keeper from the edge of the box. Fantastic game. Can't wait for the UK version to come out with a load of bug fixes and improvements...
     
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    "sorry...my mistake...what I meant to say was that Europe combined is a bigger market than either Japan or the US..and therefore Microsoft may look to Europe as the foothold for Xbox and not necessarily elsewhere.. "

    <br />Sorry museumsteve but your statement is still wrong although japan and europe are pretty close , remember japan is only one country .Microsoft is aiming at the states as their biggest market, especially with the built in hdtv support in the x-box. Its the japanese they are going to have the hardest time convincing, that`s why Microsoft is desparately trying to find more japanese developers for the machine.<br />pronkie <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
     
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    Army Bloke:<br />Peripherals are a total irrelevance for games consoles. No-one has ever made a successful one - from light-guns to CD add-ons they've all been white elephants.

    No-one will develop games to use them until enough people have bought them to make it worthwhile, and punters won't shell out for them a) because they're waiting for the games that use it and b) because they're expensive relative to the price of a new game.

    32x, MegaCD, Enforcers etc, all they're good for is filling a skip. And the main thing wrong with the PC as a games platform is that the number of possible configurations for the damn thing make it a users nightmare with drivers and settings (don't talk to me about plug and play). This is NOT an advantage for the PS2.

    With consoles, if you don't build it in from day one then don't bother.

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    X-Box release now delayed until 15th November - bummer!<br />Regards,<br /> Paul
     

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