WWDC 2011 Info and Discussions

Theydon Bois

Distinguished Member
Joined
Jun 26, 2007
Messages
16,193
Reaction score
7,130
Points
3,430
Location
Sauf Lunden
Please post all the details and your comments and twitter like updates on Lion and iCloud here.

Thanks to GKPM for the following info:

Yep, starts at 6pm.

Live coverage will be up at least on these two links:

Mac Rumors : Live Event Coverage - WWDC & Special Events
WWDC 2011 liveblog: Steve Jobs talks iOS 5, OS X Lion, iCloud and more! -- Engadget

Live video is still unknown.

For more iOS (and potenial new iPhone) discussions, please see this thread:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/ipho...s5-possible-iphone5-4s-discussion-thread.html
 
Last edited:

For those that may be firewalled..... :smashin:

Apple has already revealed that Steve Jobs will talk about iCloud, iOS 5 and OS X Lion during his WWDC keynote on Monday morning.

In addition, it’s rumored that Apple’s wireless Time Capsule backup/router will get a big update.

Here’s how iCloud and the new Time Capsule will work, according to a source close to the company who asked not be identified. It’s pretty surprising:

According to the source, Apple has developed a system to make users’ Time Machine backups available through its new iCloud service.

This is the “Home Folder” access concept that we’ve detailed before (how it will be accessed using NFC iPhones and the role of the Mac App Store). All your files and data — pictures, videos, Word and Excel documents, and so on — will be available anytime, anywhere, on both Mac OS X and iOS devices.

The surprising thing is, iCloud won’t be fed through Apple’s massive new data center in North Carolina, as you might expect.

Instead, the system will be based on Time Capsule, Apple’s wireless router and hard drive backup that’s currently sold in 1TB and 2TB versions. As rumored, Time Capsule will be updated, becoming less of a local backup and more of a personal cloud server, like the newer souped-up NAS (Network Attached Storage) drives from companies like Iomega (we reviewed one here). The new Time Capsule is rumored to run on iOS and come with embedded A4 or A5 CPUs.

Our source didn’t have any information about the hardware, but detailed how the Home Folder access system works. Files saved on your computer are backed up instantly to Time Capsule, which makes them available to remote Macs and iOS devices.

If you make any changes on any computer, those changes are updated through iCloud and stored on your Time Capsule. The Time Capsule archives and serves up your files even when your computers are off. When you get home and fire up your desktop computer or laptop, the files are automatically synced across your devices.

This service will also allow you to upload photos and videos from your iPhone or iPad to your Time Capsule. The media will be stored on the device and be made available for other devices to sync. iCloud is the “conduit” through which everything moves, the source said.

“Your computer gets backed up to Time Capsule anyways,” said the source. “Now it’ll serve up your content when you want it, where you want it, right there on your iOS device.”

The system sounds like Dropbox, the web-based file-hosting system that’s won accolades for simplicity and ease of use. But in Apple’s case, your personal cloud will be maintained not on company servers, but on your own Time Capsule.

Why isn’t Apple using its massive new data center? This part is not clear. It may just be a way to sell more hardware. Apple is a hardware company after all.

Or perhaps Apple feels that consumers will happier if they are in control of their own data. Maybe users don’t trust Apple (or any other company) to host their most important files, especially after years of spotty service from MobileMe. Or there could be other reasons, perhaps legal, that are skirted when users are responsible for their own data.

Our source says the system is fully baked and is “what’s next in line” — but stopped short of saying this is what Jobs will reveal at the Worldwide Developer’s Conference on Monday.

The source said it will be added to future versions of OS X and iOS — but they didn’t know which versions of OS X and iOS. There appears to be no sign of it in beta releases of Lion, which has been available to developers for months. Apple has kept iOS 5 under tight wraps, and it may be ready for this system.

UPDATE: Actually, it looks like the technology is already built into Lion. The Auto Save, Versions and Resume features in Lion look an awful lot like a smart file-management system designed for the cloud, resembling the way iOS and Google Docs save and manage multiple versions of documents. In addition, Time Machine in Lion is tightly integrated with Versions, making it more of a realtime backup system. “… [Versions] also appears to be used to make Time Machine much faster to open, as the Time Machine user interface can now access local snapshots take between remote backups, a sort of ‘instant Time Machine.’” See AppleInsider: Inside Mac OS X 10.7 Lion: Auto Save, File Versions and Time Machine

“This is what I heard that they have ready to go,” the source said. “This is what’s next in line. Word is, it’s a pretty finished piece.”

Given the source’s confidence in the completeness of the system, we’re willing to go out on a limb and bet this is what Jobs will reveal on Monday.
 
I hope you are not tied to a time capsule for this as i looked at a 2TB one the other day for NAS and it was £360 odd. I got a 2TB NAS off amazon for £99
 
I hope you are not tied to a time capsule for this as i looked at a 2TB one the other day for NAS and it was £360 odd. I got a 2TB NAS off amazon for £99

I think at the very least it will need a new Airport Extreme Base Station (which is currently £140-150). Apple then seem to chuck another £100 or £200 onto this price, depending on whether a 1TB or 2TB drive is included to make it a Time Capsule.

Given how much drive prices have now come down, I'm hoping they see sense in how they price things...
 
Apple store not down, usually is by now. Maybe no hardware?
 
No announcements yet (i.e. WWDC has not started). Until something is announced, nothing will change on the Apple Store.
 
I think they were reading AVForums last time

its back - nothing obviously 'new' from the only web store that needs to go down to update itself....

So they've fixed it now. It'll never go down anymore
 
Noooooo, you can't say that! It fundamentally upsets the sequencing of my Apple keynote days - stores down - keynote - tons of av forum updates - store back up (cue moans on conversion rates) - early hands on from engadget etc - keynote video online - early unboxing/reviews/blending etc posted.

Don't take the sore down process away from my apple day!
 
Not sure which thread to post this, but think I'll stick around this one.

From macrumours:
As noted by @grg, there is at least one covered banner hanging outside the keynote hall, suggesting that the banner will be promoting currently-undisclosed details of a new product:

wwdc_black_banner.jpg


So there is something other than iOS, Lion and iCloud :)
 
Did the Apple Store online already have time slots, evening and Saturday deliveries? Don't remember seeing that before.
 
gkpm said:
Did the Apple Store online already have time slots, evening and Saturday deliveries? Don't remember seeing that before.

I think they did. They advertised it a bit on the front page last time I looked.
 
like the sound of air drop but not too sure about in app purchases
 
Not overly keen on Lion only being available through the App Store. How do you do a clean install?
 
Not overly keen on Lion only being available through the App Store. How do you do a clean install?

I really don't like that, I can understand why they want everything to be off the mac app store but for an OS, I would rather have a physical DVD that I can pop in than having to wait for it to download
 
Precisely. Unless you can burn your own disc after downloading? Remains to be seen. Plus that 4GB could be a hefty chunk of somebody's download allowance if they're on a cheap broadband package.
 
Precisely. Unless you can burn your own disc after downloading? Remains to be seen. Plus that 4GB could be a hefty chunk of somebody's download allowance if they're on a cheap broadband package.

they got to have an option like that, well I hope so! and indeed, if you're on Sky's basic basic package that they give away, the usage is 2GB/month! :eek:
 
To be fair, I suspect you won't find many mac users on a basic package! Unless that's all they could afford after buying their mac ;)
 
OS X Lion to be 4GB download only? Very surprised there is no physical media. So what happens if you really mess up and need to reformat and for whatever reason cannot get online? :rolleyes:
 
To be fair, I suspect you won't find many mac users on a basic package! Unless that's all they could afford after buying their mac ;)

true but in the world of avf, I imagine most are on a generous allowance/uncapped but many in the non-avf world just stick to the basic packages

OS X Lion to be 4GB download only? Very surprised there is no physical media. So what happens if you really mess up and need to reformat and for whatever reason cannot get online? :rolleyes:

that's my question as well!
 
I hope IOS5 comes down in size as well.
 

The latest video from AVForums

Is 4K Blu-ray Worth It?
Subscribe to our YouTube channel
Back
Top Bottom