Featured Would you like to see an Avforums manufacturers OLED Vs OLED and a LCD vs LCD yearly shootout ?

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  1. raduv1

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    Hi all.

    After the Philips OLED Vs Sammy QLED event I was wondering if members would like to see the same sort of event staged by the forum itself with a yearly event staged by the forum with the same type of member engagement in the process ?

    A yearly OLED shootout for members to give out the scores on manufacturers displays , calibrated by the forum with bezel and stands hidden.

    Same as above with LCD LED displays with a full member audience to score.

    Many members more up on the finer points what should go onto the viewing or revewing list . Would this be a great stopping off point when choosing a display after the results are posted ?
     
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    I'd like to be a spectator for that.
     
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    Even if it wasn't an shoot out per se, as the manufacturers may not supply TV's on that basis, but even if it was a collection of the years models, and people could compare them in different conditions, and there could be an info session about the models and what they bring to the party etc; with hands on time, and I'm sure it would be possible to supply and get games consoles and popular products to put them through their paces. I would be up for scoring however, but if not the members could see what was good and bad anyway without having to give out an score, if that was a sticking point.
     
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    Or members could supply their own panels, I would happily bring my e6 to be shown against other tv's if it was a decent distance from my house
     
  6. BRAKKUS1

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    I'd be happy to supply a mega PC too.
     
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    I think it's a silly idea. I don't buy a TV for the underlying technology, I buy it for which ever has the obvious better picture display qualities. Limiting a shoutout to only have like for like misses the point in my opinion.
     
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    Can you walk into Currys and test all of the TV's in an environment where you can compare it's contrast abilities, namely black level, local dimming, brightness level etc?

    Can you walk into Currys and see all of these TV's calibrated to give a fair approximation of what they can do, and not have one TV blasting out dynamic mode with a 4K demo loop, whilst the TV next to it is dim, running compressed footage?

    Can you walk into Currys and get accurate information about said TV? And can you walk into Curry's and find a room full of enthusiasts and TV experts that actually know a thing two, and could maybe teach you something?

    That's the point here.

    Hell maybe TV enthusiasts would actually enjoy It!?
     
  9. Bl4ckGryph0n

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    Funny that! As none of those points were made in the quiz. It was all about comparing OLED to OLED and LCD to LCD.
     
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    Yes but you could still have that, but it wouldn't just have to be limited to that, it can be many things, but a shoot out by one of the biggest AV Forums around is a great idea.
     
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    Crompton and Moore/HDTV test do a yearly test of this sort, I think the 2017 one is next week.

    It would be more valuable for AVF to do something different. I suspect the idea of an upper mid-range comparison would be quite popular. Sony XE90, Panasonic EX750, Sony Q7 et al.

    Personally I'd be quite interested in a TV shootout that a wider range of models. All the talk about the high end feels very ungrounded and I'd find it very useful if a bunch of AV enthusiasts got together and shared their thoughts on the lower parts of the range. Where do the diminishing returns start for each type of content? are there any models that stand out? How much are you gaining by spending two or three times as much?

    IIRC AVF is Birmingham based, so that would also give an opportunity to those who find London impractical.
     
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    I'm not arguing against that at all, but that isn't what the question nor original post proposed ;) THAT is the point.
     
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    But us av enthusiasts normally buy high end, I've never bought a TV looking for a middle of the road tv, I wouldn't be interested in a shootout with the models you've mentioned as an example
     
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    There are plenty of threads on the TV forum asking about sub-£1k TVs.
     
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    But it wouldn't just comprise of the shootout I'm sure, but hands on time and chat wrapped around it.

    Like I said for many it would be invaluable, and a real benefit.
     
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    There is no reason why that couldn't be accommodated.
     
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    Maybe @Steve Withers can advise whether this may be feasible in future
     
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    If it had flagships Vs flagships and then those in the same price band.

    Although a 65" C6 at £2499 from Curry's should win for best price\performance, half the price of a 65" Samsung Q9 and much cheaper than this year's OLED and it's basically the same TV, then last year's 65DX902 for £1999 from Richersounds.
     
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    Exactly. I think it would be much better to simply have a shootout based upon I don't know; budget, or size opposed to it had to be an LCD or it has to be an OLED. That will automatically come out anyway. For example you simple won't get any OLED in a sub £1000 category. However a shoot out of say best picture quality 55" overall TV makes more sense to me than limiting it to a particular technology as per the survey and original post.
     
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    Don't think there will be many years left for LCD.
     
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    True QLED and Sony CLEDIS have the chance to beat OLED
     
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    The Q9 is the most shocking TV for many a year imo, the price is staggering, and it has a really poor local dimming implementation, one review site gave it 2/10 :eek:

    They do, LCD or not, one thing is for sure, they'll always be competing TV technologies battling it out regardless.
     
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    The real qled yes possibly, not the LCD badged version Samsung released at the moment. That to me seems to be engineered to trick customer.
     
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    Raduv1 begins this thread by asking in post #1:

    and in post #17 Arenaman adds:
    This seems to overlook what was previously said on the Philips OLED vs Samsung QLED shootout thread, specifically on page 7, this link Philips OLED vs. QLED Shoot-out Results

    and on page 7 of that emotional thread raduv1 had asked, in post #201:
    to which in post #205, Phil Hinton, AVForums Editor, had replied (the bolding and underlining in the first paragraph is mine, not his):
    So the AVForums authorities' view is that such an event probably won't happen, at least not organised by AVForums. However, most people will know that a shootout is happening today, Sunday 13th August, arranged by another online review site, between two LCDs and three OLEDs, all five sets being 65 inches, and the results, which personally I await with huge interest, will be publicised presently. Today's shootout won't affect my future purchasing decision - the Sony 75ZD9 - but it will make me better informed about the current state of the high-end UK television market.
     
  25. raduv1

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    Hi

    I started this thread just as a means to gauge what sort of interest forum members would have in our own forum staging such an event . Also to brainstorm with ideas and suggestions of how it could be done on the forum. End of the day it's not up to us but maybe if the higher powers see a real interest in it something hopefully can be arranged.

    Like the poster further up the page who suggested members willing to have their displays used that I thought was a great idea.
     
  26. Bl4ckGryph0n

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    There is nothing stopping you from organising this. No need to wait for avforums unless you want something from them. Why would they stop members wanting to meet up?
     
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    @raduv1 and @dejongj Yes, the idea has generated some interest, particularly from those members willing to submit their own displays for such an event. I do, however, think that AVForums, or a similar body, would have to be involved, if only to ensure that all the televisions were calibrated to the same standard. And the five-television shootout which is happening today elsewhere does seem to be an annual event, so I'm not sure what a further annual event would add?
     
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    That annual event is by crampton and Moore in collaboration with hdtv test isn't it, so they will be generating traffic with this shootout, av doing similiar will surely generate more traffic this way, more traffic means more money from ad revenue, and surely that's the aim of the game for av forums?
     
  29. Bl4ckGryph0n

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    And at least that event doesn't limit the shootout to LCD vs LCD and a separate one for OLED vs OLED.
     
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    Looks like the question has already been answered then
     

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