Would you call for early general elections?

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  1. GAZBEROTTEN

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    Just curious with the failures of the current government do you think its time for early general elections?

    The creator of this petition and a lot of people think so and you can read the comments and sign the petition if you want to on the link below

    http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/david-cameron-out-call-for-an-early-general-election

    Personally i think we should get early elections since we have been let down to many times now.

    Cheers for the read and i look forward to everyone's views on this

    Gaz
     
  2. Reinholder

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    I'm curious - what would happen if the liberal Democrats dissolved the coalition? Would that force an early general election?


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  3. la gran siete

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    signed! Need to get these clowns out as soon as poss
     
  4. kav

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    The reasons given aren't sufficient for a general election to be called. People might not like coalitions, but they're a perfectly valid form of government.
     
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    Yeah, UKIP, UKIP,UKIP .
     
  6. Jamezinho

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    Politics is too short-termist as it is without more frequent elections making it worse.
     
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    Agreed. Like a hire car. The more short term the hire the more it gets abused.
     
  8. krish

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    No. This petition has sod all value. I'm happy to wait until 2015 when there will be another hung parliament rather than now, when there would also be a hung parliament. A majority will not be achieved by any party for a long long time. Coalitions/pacts/minority administrations are here to stay, and I don't want to go to the polls early just to satisfy selfish peoples' need to cause unnecessary mayhem which will not change the govt. If there's one thing that I support from the current administration, it's fixed term elections.
     
  9. icstm

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    agreed.
    Looking at recent times it takes 10 years for any real change. There will not be much change from 2010 to 2015. The same is true of 1997-2002.

    But at the same time a competent "evil" party could do quite a bit of damage in 10 years.
     
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    not sure I follow, so ZipCars (the company) or ZipCars (the cars) get abused due to their hourly hire model?

    Surely an Aston for the weekend, would take a greater physical pounding...
     
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    If you have a long term car to live with for a few years you tend to take care of it as you have to live with it. Short term hire without consequences means drivers aren't quite so fussed. When we changed from short term company cars to self lease hire cars it was amazing how accident rates and mechanical damage fell to almost nothing. When we attended a sales meeting you could always guarantee to hear of one or two who had departed the road or blown up their engines. In later meetings all that disappeared.
     
  12. JBrown1

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    Why have an early general election? Whats the alternative to the current govt?... going back to those muppets that got us in this mess in the first place? No thanks.
     
  13. la gran siete

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    seems quite sensible to me
     
  14. Squiffy

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    From the man who would asset strip and imprison those seeking to leave the UK, that isn't much of an endorsement.
     
  15. la gran siete

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    no ,only those who start shovelling their millions to tax havens and when that doesnt work, seek to emigrate.
     
  16. MikeTV

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    I'd welcome an early election because this is clearly a one-term government. They have completely failed economically - we're in a worse state than when they were elected (or not elected!). They are endlessly scaremongering about deficit levels whilst reducing taxes for the rich, and cutting benefits for the poor. They are avoiding any attempts at banking reforms and destroying the environment. So labour may be a bunch of muppets, but a lib/lab coalition - who knows? Anything has to better than what we have now. A lib/lab coalition is a far better ideological fit than a tory/lib coalition.
     
  17. la gran siete

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    apparently some of the worst "bitch" fights at occur at county council level between the Lib Dems and Labour:laugh:Seems that people are not that ideologically far apart , they argue the most.Same happens within each party.Tony Benn used to remark on that being somewhat horrified by what he witnessed
     
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    The deficit reduced by a quarter, unemployment down, employment at record highs, inflation down...

    Yes, clearly we are in a much worse state.

    The deficit is actually below what the Labour party were forecasting back in 2009.
     
  19. kav

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    I fear you will get your wish. Maybe not the early election but the outcome you're hoping for.

    By the way, banking is undergoing enormous reform, regardless of this government's interference (or lack of it) and has been for several years.
     
  20. sidicks

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    It's a shame that apparently Mike knows so little about this stuff, yet frequently claims the opposite!

    Also, In response to this:

    It is probably worth reminding him about the numerous tax increases on the 'rich' and the increases in tax free allowances that have gone do much to help the poorest workers.

    The fact that the 50% tax rate was a) only intended to be temporary and b) didn't a risky raise any money appears to be lost on him!


    I guess you are unaware of the complexity of banks and the current / proposed regulations and the danger of unintended consequences?!

    You'll have to explain what the Coalition has failed to do as far as the environment is concerned?
     
  21. MikeTV

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    I know there are banking reforms going through, Kav. I'm not the extremist people like to portray me as. But the fact of the matter is, the tories are merely bowing to public pressure on banking reforms, but are also resisting changes at every opportunity. Look at what Cameron tried to do at the EU in terms of bankers bonuses, for example. The public are not stupid, and I am sure will kick them out, for these reasons.
     
  22. sidicks

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    That was because it was a stupid idea that would have the opposite effect than was intended and would severely impact the UK compared to other EU countries.

    Quite why you think that increasing guaranteed base salaries for bankers would be a good thing, I've no idea??
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  23. MikeTV

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    • Attempted to sell off of the nation's forests
    • Slashed funding for the Energy Savings Trust
    • Slashed funding for the Carbon Trust
    • Slashed subsidies to solar energy companies
    • Slashed funding for flooding and coastal defences
    • Slashed plans for the green investment bank
    • Scrapped environmental laws
    • Abolished green ISAs
    • Provided tax breaks for shale gas extraction
    • Provided tax breaks for North Sea oil and gas fields
    For starters. So much for being "the greenest government ever".
     
  24. sidicks

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    So basically sound economic policies - avoiding wasteful subsidies to green issues and investing in technologies to support our energy security in the future!!

    This all sounds sensible!

    I see you are still unable to differentiate between reducing taxes and providing a subsidy!!
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    So you and sidicks cannot be that far apart then? :)
     
  26. sidicks

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    Who can I report a Mod too...?!

    Ironically of course we both have similar compassion for the poorest in society (current and future generations) we just differ tremendously in how best to achieve that!
    :smashin:
     
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    you enjoy all this personal animosity dont you?
    Think about families and how often individual members fall apart never speaking to each other again or the divorce rate.Then think about the feuds that arise within certain communities.Political parties are just an extension of that
     
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    let them tear each other apart. Love it:smashin:
     
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