Worth adding Roksan K3 Power Amp to a Roksan K3 integrated amp?

Ironically Simple

Novice Member
Evening all,
I have just upgraded my HiFi gear & bought a pair of Deli Opticon 6 Mk.2's floor stands & a Roksan K3 integrated amp to power them. It sounds great don't get me wrong but I also noticed that Roksan do a K3 Power amp that is designed to go with the K3 integrated amp.

Is it worth adding the Roksan K3 power amp to pair it up with the Roksan K3 integrated amp & set it up for Bi-amping or a pre/power amp setup?

I'm aware that the K3 is plenty to power the Dali's but might it add a bit more control over the bass drivers?
Is there any issues with Bi-Amping, what are the positives & Negatives in doing so?

Thanks for the help & replies guys, I'm pretty new to this & i upgraded from a Yamaha AS-300 & a pair of PMC Twenty 21's, so this is the first time i have had pretty powerful speakers & a good amp.

Edit 1 : So i have been looking around the net & was thinking of Valve preamps & the warm sound they give. Does anyone know if you can plugin a valve pre-amp to the Roksan integrated K3 amp?
The amp does have a 'pre-amp output, a bypass input & a bypass switch (between AV & Bypass imputs). So I assume a pre-amp can be plugged into the K3, correct?

To make things even more complex, would it be possible to have a setup as follows:
Valve Pre-amp > Roksan K3 Power Amp > Roksan K3 Integrated amp?
If so I assume that would be the ideal setup & so would that be the way to go?

-Ironically Simple
 
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Mark.Yudkin

Distinguished Member
I'm aware that the K3 is plenty to power the Dali's but might it add a bit more control over the bass drivers?
Is there any issues with Bi-Amping, what are the positives & Negatives in doing so?
Probably not much with the specific speakers. If you can borrow a K3, you could try it out.
There are no issues with bi-amping. Negative is cost, positive is probably objectively minimal, but could be subjectively huge (imagination has few limits).

Does anyone know if you can plugin a valve pre-amp to the Roksan integrated K3 amp?
You can, using the AV input.
Note that "warm sound" is a euphemism for "massive harmonic distortion". Good valve pre-amps don't have that sound but cost well over your apparently price point. I would recommend careful comparative auditioning.

Valve Pre-amp > Roksan K3 Power Amp > Roksan K3 Integrated amp?
If so I assume that would be the ideal setup & so would that be the way to go?
That isn't the way things work. You can bi-amp, but Power -> Integrated is the wrong way around. If you want a valve pre-amp and a K3 power amp, I suggest you sell the integrated.
 

vavrys

Standard Member
Hi, I had K2 integrated and power connected to my MA GX300 and need to say the difference was significant even with cheap cables (QED XT350). Definitely better than running only integrated amp with better cables (Kimber 8TC).
Hope it helps.
 

Jonbhoy67

Novice Member
Hi Ironic,

I posed the exact same question with Roksan equipment a little while ago. It was with all Roksan Caspian M2 gear but there will still be a lot of relevance to your question with the K3 gear.

I added a power amp to my integrated amp and bi-amped with the integrated amp now working the treble and the power amp working the bass.

The difference was quite noticeable and well worth the outlay for me. The expanded sound stage and "breathing space" between instruments was improved greatly.

As I say, I know it's not a direct comparison but it's still worth consideration. The thread is on the What HiFi forum if you want to read more: Question - Will a Roksan Power amp be a worthwhile addition?

As others have suggested, a demo is virtually essential if you can manage to get a home trial. Richer Sounds will usually offer a 14 day trial with no hassle returns if it's not to your liking and they have a presence almost everywhere in the UK. (Other vendors are available!)

Best of luck!
 
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JemCollector

Active Member
Like Jon says in the above post the addition of a power amp made a massive difference for me. I bought the K3 integrated and loved it but then had the same thoughts as you so a short time later I purchased the matching power amp and bi-amped my speakers in exactly the same way as Jon above. The difference was immediately apparent - much better bass control and greater dynamics.

The K3 power amp was £1k when I bought mine (I assume that the price has risen like everything else) but it was money well spent as far as I’m concerned.
 

rccarguy2

Well-known Member
Like Jon says in the above post the addition of a power amp made a massive difference for me. I bought the K3 integrated and loved it but then had the same thoughts as you so a short time later I purchased the matching power amp and bi-amped my speakers in exactly the same way as Jon above. The difference was immediately apparent - much better bass control and greater dynamics.

The K3 power amp was £1k when I bought mine (I assume that the price has risen like everything else) but it was money well spent as far as I’m concerned.

Compare vertical and horizontal bi-smping. I'm using vertical biamping with 4x100w amps
 

JemCollector

Active Member
Compare vertical and horizontal bi-smping. I'm using vertical biamping with 4x100w amps
Maybe I’m missing something but what’s your point? The OP asked if a K3 power amp is worth adding to his system, not for a comparison of bi-amping options.
 

rccarguy2

Well-known Member
It's worth it but if he does get Poweramp then part of it is trying both. With horizontal biamping it means the treble/mid amp doesn't work that hard but bass one does.

With vertical biamping it means one amp is driving one speaker so load is spread on the total amp
 

Jonbhoy67

Novice Member
It's worth it but if he does get Poweramp then part of it is trying both. With horizontal biamping it means the treble/mid amp doesn't work that hard but bass one does.

With vertical biamping it means one amp is driving one speaker so load is spread on the total amp
I don't think he could bi-amp vertically with the amp combination mentioned. You would need 2 matching amps for that, the power amp can't do the same job as the integrated, so I don't believe it's a viable option.
 

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