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World Cup not about skill but Luck

Anyone else feel like the world cup is more about luck than about skilled players when it comes to winning matches...

Take for instance Group D..

Germany Beat Australia 4:0
Australia then Draw with Ghana (Fifa Rank 32) who beat Serbia (Fifa rank 15) who beat Germany (Fifa Rank 6)..

So Australia go from getting beaten badly by the best team in the group to drawing with the team that beat the best team in the group...

Most of the groups are like that...

Seems more about luck, being in the right place at the right time, than about the quality of the players... as all in all, the quality of all competing teams seem balanced....

Brazil another example, barely beat a country "north korea" that nobody knew even had a national team, let alone could actually play football

Europe a continent well known for Football is actually letting itself down, seems to be more african teams than there are european in this years cup, as well as 3 teams from asia and 2 from australasia, and god knows how many from south america, can't even imagine how bad the quality of the footy in euro 2012 will be judging by how they are playing in the world cup.... there all over the place!, france/greece/england none of them are playing any kind of game that is worthy of being watched, makes you wonder why turkey didn't quality this year...

Still it's pretty entertaining this year, with suprises from mexico/uruguay and north korea, overall all the matches are pretty even and could swing either way, Ivory Coast vs. Brazil will be an interesting match
 
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lee_d_m

Active Member
nope, it's football, part of it's charm is it's unpredictability. Plus the once lesser nations are a lot better than they used to be in years gone past, so there really are no easy games any more.

Having said that, to win the World Cup, I think you do need a little bit of luck along the way.
 

kalakola

Active Member
i think you need to get some sleep mate cause you don't know what your talking about. Did you even watch the germany vs serbia game. Germans were very hard done by, by the ref. They got a man sent off and even though the germans were playing with 10 men they had quite a few chances and still could have won the game. Also, the scores don't tell you the hole story. Most of the teams are playing very defensive and trying to score on breaks. Also, Brazil were dominating koreo, ok they didn't play aswell as they can, but they had most of the possession and could have scored many more goals.
 
i Brazil were dominating koreo, ok they didn't play aswell as they can, but they had most of the possession and could have scored many more goals.

Brazil were not dominating they could not even get past NK's defence in the first half, North Korea didn't have much confidence up front hence the reason they didn't win, nothing to with quality of players but more to do with self confidence, that and probably the idea of getting 100 lashings if they lose on their mind..

Same goes for Algeria, they played much better than england, but didn't really know what to do up front, put it down to self confidence as they probably didn't think it would be so easy getting so close to the goal, and just stood their passing the ball around hoping it would magically shoot it self into the goal, they should of really one by 2 goals to 1
 

addyb

Distinguished Member
Brazil were not dominating they could not even get past NK's defence in the first half, North Korea didn't have much confidence up front hence the reason they didn't win, nothing to with quality of players but more to do with self confidence, that and probably the idea of getting 100 lashings if they loose on their mind..

Same goes for Algeria, they played much better than england, but didn't really know what to do up front, put it down to self confidence as they probably didn't think it would be so easy getting so close to the goal, and just stood their passing the ball around hoping it would magically shoot it self into the goal, they should of really one by 2 goals to 1

No its because of there "lack of quality" not confidence. Algeria also didnt play much better than england at all.

:suicide::suicide::suicide:
 

kalakola

Active Member
Brazil were not dominating they could not even get past NK's defence in the first half, North Korea didn't have much confidence up front hence the reason they didn't win, nothing to with quality of players but more to do with self confidence, that and probably the idea of getting 100 lashings if they lose on their mind..

Same goes for Algeria, they played much better than england, but didn't really know what to do up front, put it down to self confidence as they probably didn't think it would be so easy getting so close to the goal, and just stood their passing the ball around hoping it would magically shoot it self into the goal, they should of really one by 2 goals to 1

North korea had 5 men in their back line. They had their defence packed. They made it difficult for Brazil and i agree brazil could have played better, but hey, they got the won.

The England Algeria game was different. Algeria set their team out to go forward and if they had a decent centre forward England would have been toast. Imo, England lost a big opportunity last night, its not like they never had chances to score, they did, they had many, they just went to pot near goal.
 

Wild Weasel

Distinguished Member
Sure there's a luck element to any sport, but it's also about having the people with talent to create their own luck and doing the right thing under pressure. If it was that easy, these guys wouldn't be on the megabucks they are.

Europe a continent well known for Football is actually letting itself down, seems to be more african teams than there are european in this years cup, as well as 3 teams from asia and 2 from australasia, and god knows how many from south america

There are 13 teams from Europe and 6 from Africa.

South Africa as hosts, didn't have to qualify.

There are also:

4 from Asia (Australia play in the Asian region now)
1 from Oceania (The Pacific region)
3 from North & Central America and the Caribbean
5 from South America

makes you wonder why turkey didn't quality this year

They came third in their group. Too many draws and they lost twice to Spain.
 

reddevil63

Distinguished Member
its not all luck tho it does help. There are different elements for a team to win trophies.

Ask any premier league winning manager what elements are required. The same goes for winning a major tournament.

On any day any team can be beaten....even the good ones.
 

RMCF

Distinguished Member
You can of course pick out examples of luck winning games, such as Sneijder's shot today which beat the Japan keeper. Other than that they were pretty poor and hardly deserved to win.

However, if you take this example, and Holland played Japan competitively for say 10 games, I'd guess Holland would probably win 8 or 9 of them.

Same for Brazil v North Korea.

Thats what makes football great. Its unpredictability.

If the team expected to win always wins, then we wouldn't watch it.
 

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