Woo PJ-TX 200j or EMP-TW 600?

AML

Well-known Member
Thinking of getting a PJ but cant decide which to go for.

If I could afford it i would probably go for an optoma, but as it stands these two Pj's are very affordable and offer good specs.

The Hitachi offers a higher contrast (7000) than the Epson (5000) but not by much.

And the Epson offers more conections (2 components vs 1 on the hitachi)

Prices in Japan for these Pjs are almost the same: 140.000 yen (700 quid)

So they are within my price range.

Any idea as to which of the two is better over all?

*I care mostly about picture quality.

Cheers.
 

AML

Well-known Member
Price wise the hitachi is about 50 quid cheaper.
But more importantly the contrast is higher.

The only real benefit to the Epson is the extra component conection.

But as I said, i care mostly about picture quality and I will go for which ever one is best in that department.

Whats the most important thing to look for in a PJ?
 

Jammyb

Novice Member
The better contrast ratio on the hitachi is probably only achieved using the "auto iris 2" setting, which is annoying and useless. So in real world use the contrast is probably the same.

How does the cost of bulbs compare out there? Because here the TX200 bulbs are cheaper.

The extra component connection is fairly useless imo, because you're more likely to switch connections at source (through an AV amp perhaps) than run 2 long and expensive component cables.
 

JorisS

Novice Member
As I just got reminded off in my topic asking about experiences with Pricejapan.... keep in mind that you MIGHT (and probably WILL) be charged VAT...

just so it won't come as a complete downer when the package is to be picked up and you actually can't afford to :rolleyes:
 

spylab

Novice Member
AML do you see and be bothered by rainbows ?

If not wait a bit to put optoma 70 in the list.

How much more the optoma 72 cost there?

Do you have the space to put a PJ with no lenshift-wide zoom?

If your first prioriry is picture quality you mast look-try for a 720 DLP.

From LCDs i liked most pana 900 although 200 is close .

The claimed 5000 7000 CR have nothing to do with reality.

Is it not possible threre to see the PJs of your list both playing
side by side ? This may be the only way to know what you miss-
gain with each.

If you choose a LCD you mast see it next to Optoma 72 to know
for sure that it doesnt worth for you the extra spending ..........


JorisS he is from Tokyo ;)
 

cyberheater

Well-known Member
AML said:
But more importantly the contrast is higher.
Given the real world difference in contrast between my mates LCD Z4 (rated 7000:1) and my DLP Toshiba mt200 (rated 2500:1) I wouldn't believe any quoted figure by LCD manufacturers. The tosh according to spec has almost 3 time less contrast ratio but actually blows the Z4 out the water.
 

AML

Well-known Member
JorisS said:
As I just got reminded off in my topic asking about experiences with Pricejapan.... keep in mind that you MIGHT (and probably WILL) be charged VAT...

just so it won't come as a complete downer when the package is to be picked up and you actually can't afford to :rolleyes:
I live in Japan and even though we do pay for VAT its only 5%!

Not only that but I buy things online and the VAT is included in the price. So the asking price of either PJ is the ammount i would pay.

After reading your replies it would seem that either PJ might be good!

I would like an optoma but they dont sell them in Japan. I havent seen any here. I guess the japanese only like their own brands...
 

PJTX100

Distinguished Member
cyberheater said:
Given the real world difference in contrast between my mates LCD Z4 (rated 7000:1) and my DLP Toshiba mt200 (rated 2500:1) I wouldn't believe any quoted figure by LCD manufacturers. The tosh according to spec has almost 3 time less contrast ratio but actually blows the Z4 out the water.
I can't understand why all this contrast mularky didn't hit me in the face when demoing the 4805, H30A and H79 vs the Z4 / TX200 / AE900.

What I did clearly notice however (as well as RBE) was the screen door effect and lack of resolution of 480 res panels. If I were to choose between grey blacks or downscaling standard def PAL DVDs I'd choose the former.

Having said that, the price of that Tosh is a bargain. :)

And when a HD 3 chip DLP with optical lens shift hits the streets sub 2K I'll certainly give it consideration. :D
 

spylab

Novice Member
But really the difference between Z4 and 79 is very obvious, what helps
a lot is to see them both the same time showing the same film ............

Even with pictures the difference of CR is noticeable but photos
of course can't show how easy and smooth are for the eye LCDs

An easy test is to use a good CRT tv , memorise and see fast the same
scene, LCD will fail a lot and DLP less .

If i had to choose between 480 DLP and 720 LCD i would get the LCD of course .
 

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