Wired Remote

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Control & Remote Controls' started by kingjohno, Feb 7, 2009.

  1. kingjohno

    kingjohno
    Standard Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2008
    Messages:
    40
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Ratings:
    +3
    As a school we're currently building a new Student Area. It's going to contain, a 50" television, mounted onto a wall, behind a perspex screen.

    Ceiling speakers are going to be used as well.

    But the main thing is the remote control, we don't want a normal one, as it will just get lost, misplaced, damaged etc.

    So is there any type of wired version, or some way of having a permanent fixing to change the channel?
     
  2. clockworks

    clockworks
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2005
    Messages:
    3,573
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    West Country
    Ratings:
    +297
    You can get wall-mounted "remote" panels, but they are expensive.

    Cheapest and simplest option would be to get a universal remote with limited functionality (a basic one-for-all will be fine) and a monitor security cable. These are designed to fix PC monitors to desks in reception areas, preventing a walk-in theft. You get a length of cable with a loop on each end, plus two sticky fixings - put one on a suitable panel, the other on the back of the remote. Leave the remote hanging by the cable.

    Keep the original remote locked up in the IT technician's room.
     
  3. kingjohno

    kingjohno
    Standard Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2008
    Messages:
    40
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Ratings:
    +3
    Is there no cheap wall mounted touch screen. or even just one with 2 buttons to change channel?
     
  4. clockworks

    clockworks
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2005
    Messages:
    3,573
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    West Country
    Ratings:
    +297
    Not that I know of. These wall-mounted panels are designed for multi-room AV installations. They tend to be the playthings of rich people, so the prices are high - think many hundreds, if not thousands, of pounds.

    If you want to build one, just for two channel change buttons, it should be fairly cheap. You'll need:

    A basic universal remote.
    A "project box" from Maplin.
    2 push switches from Maplin.
    An IR extender, also from Maplin.

    Program the remote to work with the TV.
    Dismantle the remote and solder 2 wires to each of the channel buttons.
    Fit the switches to the project box, and wire the switches to the remote's wires. The switches will now operate the channel change buttons.

    Fit the remote and the IR extender's receiver into the project box, so the remote is pointing at the receiver.

    Fix one of the IR extender's emitters to the front of the TV.
    Fix the project box to a suitable surface, extending the emitter wires if necessary.


    The 2 pushbuttons will make the remote send the channel up/down codes to the IR extender. The IR extender will pass the commands to the TV.

    If you shop around on eBay, you should be able to buy all the parts required for less than £40.
     
  5. hornydragon

    hornydragon
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2001
    Messages:
    28,345
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Location:
    Somewhere near the M4 most of the time......
    Ratings:
    +1,218
    Yes there are, if your a school then you should have an AV company that can advise on these matters. A 50" screen behind perspex is a novel idea, the best ides is to look at "not a normal telly". There are screens designed for specific uses (hospitality/hotel/Public display) that have much better menu options for this sort of useage and specs. There are some simple wall mounted controls for basic functionality.

    BTW How are the ceiling speakers going to be powered?From TV? External AMP? Other?

    http://www.rticorp.com/files/cutsheet_rk1.pdf

    RK1-2/4 would be ideal, partnered with a suitable display. RK1-8 with a more basic TV

    OR http://www.adltd.co.uk/index_files/CB-1000.pdf

    The RK2 http://rticorp.com/files/cutsheet_rk2.pdf is smart but is where the cost is more than a box of remtoes for the TV. These systems are also ideal for classrooms with interactive boards etc (gets around the lost remote issues and the "i don't know how to use the Projector" comments from staff, They press the button labelled "Projector" and everything happens thats required including the dimming of lights etc if necassary.
     
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2009
  6. kingjohno

    kingjohno
    Standard Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2008
    Messages:
    40
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Ratings:
    +3
    So how much for the CB-1000 8-Button Control Panel, and how easy is it for a caretaker (for example) to fit?
     
  7. clockworks

    clockworks
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2005
    Messages:
    3,573
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    West Country
    Ratings:
    +297
    US retail price listed as $249.
     
  8. hornydragon

    hornydragon
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2001
    Messages:
    28,345
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Location:
    Somewhere near the M4 most of the time......
    Ratings:
    +1,218
    It would not normally be programmeable by a "caretaker" unless they know a bit about IR and PC programming an IT tech may be able to do it, who is installing the rest of the system, plasma, speakers etc?

    http://rticorp.com/files/cutsheet_rkm1.pdf Is actually cheaper than i thought,Under £200, the RK1-2/4/8 are more expensive I can check the price of the CB-1000 If you want more info.

    The keypads there are 3 manufacturers I know of (excluding expensive control systems such as AMX/crestron/Elan/Control4) who do basic in wall IR keypads that do what you need they are all US spec bits of kit which are adapted for European/UK markets as such they use US back boxes taller than UK single gang boxes.

    The CB-1000 is actually quite advanced being able to do things like scheduled control which would allow it to turn the system off automatically at a certain time
     
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2009
  9. hornydragon

    hornydragon
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2001
    Messages:
    28,345
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Location:
    Somewhere near the M4 most of the time......
    Ratings:
    +1,218
  10. logiciel

    logiciel
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2008
    Messages:
    53,138
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    UK
    Ratings:
    +5,778
    How much are they?:D
     
  11. hornydragon

    hornydragon
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2001
    Messages:
    28,345
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Location:
    Somewhere near the M4 most of the time......
    Ratings:
    +1,218
    The Waci controllers?
     
  12. logiciel

    logiciel
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2008
    Messages:
    53,138
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    UK
    Ratings:
    +5,778
    Yes, to the nearest 1k will do.
     
  13. hornydragon

    hornydragon
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2001
    Messages:
    28,345
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Location:
    Somewhere near the M4 most of the time......
    Ratings:
    +1,218
  14. stoobie

    stoobie
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2006
    Messages:
    444
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Location:
    Exeter, Devon
    Ratings:
    +78
    This may be a shot in the dark! Lateral thinking but it may work.

    One For All Zapper review - whathifi.com

    It will control the TV and is around £10 so if lost it is not a problem, or you can get a couple of meters of that "bathplug" chain, drill a small hole in the remote and epoxy glue one end of the chain in and then attach the other to the frame of the screen round the TV or screw it to the wall near where you want it kept.

    Or you could mount it into the perspex cover to the TV (over or pointing towards the IR Eye) and it will act as an external switch & control! It says the batteries last about 9 months.

    It is a learning remote so should learn the commands from your original and I would think the caretaker could program it!

    Stoobie
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2009
  15. Gerard Fernand

    Gerard Fernand
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2004
    Messages:
    220
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    location
    Ratings:
    +32

Share This Page

Loading...