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  1. JFRTDI

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    Hi,

    Interested to know who uses winter tyres and what type of car you have?

    I have a BMW and this will be my first winter upcoming so would like to be prepared as I've read some stories that they are absolute dire in snow and won't go anywhere. How true is that?

    Will winter tyres even make a difference?

    Finally, could I buy some 16" steels and put them on mine? Currently have 18s and thus would be cheaper rubber with the 16s.

    Ive read some stories re the 16s not fitting due to size of brakes etc.

    Thanks
     
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    Quattro here (unsubscribed ;))
     
  3. JFRTDI

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    Wife has a tt quattro, I'm sure she'll be smug come winter
     
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    Living in the midlands I've never had the need for winter tyres, if I was further up north where they get more snow then I'd consider them.
    Touch wood never been stuck in snow with any RWD car and I've had plenty.
     
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    Well having recently moved I've got a 5 mile stretch of country roads to navigate in my route to work which is up and down, coupled with the fact I work shifts so 6-2 and 2-10, I'm either one of the first on the roads in the morning or get stuck going home if the snow hits.

    Ive never bothered with winters before but having a rwd and factoring in the country roads, I'd like to be prepared.
     
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    Used Continental winter tyres before, well wirth the money.

    And winter tyres on a car perform better than a 4WD drive on summer tyres. Have a search on youtube plenty of comparison videos.
     
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    Living in the north of scotland I put winter tyres on my 5 series. You certainly notice a difference even in wet conditions when the temperature drops. So if you regularly get low temps I would certainly recommend. I know a lot of people buy steel wheels to use over the winter, I guess it depends on how new your car is and how much you value it's "looks." I bought another set of alloys fitted with winter tyres to make it easier to swap over myself. Another option is to buy a set of winter tyres and pay to have them fitted to your existing wheels. As mjn says there are videos and reviews on youtube.
     
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    Winter tyres vs 4x4 - snow tyre test -...


    Here's a link showing the difference between 4wd with regular tyres and 2wd with winter tyres, in snow. I have a rear wheel drive Jaguar, and put winter wheels on every year. I bought a set of tyres and wheels when I got my previous XF which had 20" wheels. It was cheaper to buy the 18" wheels with winter tyres than it was to buy just tyres for the 20" wheels.

    I first got winter tyres for a Mercedes E class, just tyres, and they made a huge difference when we had the snow 6 or 7 years ago. Since then, I'm pretty sure I could have done without, but if you buy when the car is new and use for a few years, the overall increase in cost isn't huge. I've had four winters out of them now, and haven't had to replace my regular tyres on either car.

    I live in Hertfordshire, right on the border with Buckinghamshire, but in a village that has a long hill going out one way, as we're in The Chilterns, so it's good to be prepared. I used to change them over myself, but now pay a mobile tyre fitter about £30 to change them, much better for my old back :).
     
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    I've had BMW's for the last 12 years and those 2-3 bad winters we had a few years back were a nightmare. They never clear the roads where I live and there were a few days I had to get lifts to and from work.
    So I went out and bought a set of winter tyres and alloys (no way am I putting steel wheels on).
    In the snow they are awesome you have to really push for them to loose grip.

    As the above poster I haven't really needed them the last few years but they are much safer in wet and icy conditions.

    Next car will be an X drive so I can get away without winters as they are a pain to change.

    If you live in a large town on roads which are regularly gritted you probably don't need winters.


    The wheel has to clear the brakes. Ask BMW for a quote for a winter wheel set. You can then use that info and look elsewhere to compare. I got my set from Mytyres.
     
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    Cheers guys, will take a look at the videos after work. Just out of interest how do I know what 16s would fit for example would a set of 16s from an e39 5 stud work? What about offset and stuff like that.
     
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    E39 have different hub size.

    You can pick up another set of MV3 alloys pretty cheap.
     
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    Don't forget to notify your insurer when you fit different wheels/tyres!
     
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    Altough I've got a Quattro I queried fitting winter wheels and tyres with my insurer MoreThan. What they said was that provided they are the manufacturer's recommended type and size that was all that was required, no need to inform or ask permission.
     
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    Direct Line however do require notifying and they reissue your cover note - other don't seem to bother
     
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    So will any e90 alloy fit? If mine are staggered does this mean the winter tyres would need to be the same? Seems like there's many on eBay which are same all round.
     
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    Pretty much. Obviously larger brakes will need larger alloys.

    Most people go with a square setup for winter wheels, but you can keep the staggered setup if you wish.

    You could run 225/40/18 tyres all round on MV3, no problem.
     
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    Ok thanks, do I need to concern myself with offset and stuff like that or as long as they fit all is good?
     
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    Ive had couple of sets got good year ultra grip on my fiesta at the moment and they are decent. Good year vector 4seasons were better tho.
    Ive had my 25mile trip home from work at 4am on 3 inches of fresh snow and its so good, Normal tyres have no grip in comparison if don't have 4wd.
    Highly recomended to get any decent brand if in snowy area. Have to be tried to be believed really.
     
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    All MV3's are the same offset. And any E90 (excluding M3) alloys will fit.

    If in doubt, use www.willtheyfit.com
     
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    Steel wheels slimmer tyres and 200kg sand
     
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    Or just change your tyres to Michelin Cross Climate - keep 'em on all year ;)
     
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    Only thing with dual tyre set ups is storage space. They take up a lot of space.
     
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    Winter tyres aren't just for snow. They're better in any conditions where the temperature is lower than 7 degrees.
     
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    Mine are in my garage roof space, I almost kill myself each year balancing on top of a ladder getting them down. They weigh more than they look.
     
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    Some places will store and swap wheels for a small car.
     
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    I know and still haven't need them.
    Bold statement to say winter tyres are better then summer tyres in any conditions below 7 degrees.
     
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    They are, it's well documented. They have a softer compound so are grippier at lower temperatures. You only have to put a summer tyre against a winter to see the difference.
    I have been running winters for the last 5 years and they are far superior to summer tyres in wet and icy conditions. Above 10 degrees though they aren't the nicest of things to drive on.
     
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    So, been looking about and that. I'm not fussed about alloys given it's only 4 months or so a year. My question is if I bought some 17" steels, would I be OK putting these tyres on 205/50/17 or would they be too slim?
     
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    What width are the steelies?
     
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    You would also need to make sure that the 17" wheels would clear the brake calipers as well [emoji106]
     

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