I posted this some time ago expecting to be able to put up with it because it seemed to complicated to try and resolve. I have changed my mind, this is really getting on my nerves. Just recently each time I open my Windows Live mail after a few seconds I get this error message: Unable to send or receive messages for the ............ account. Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of inactivity. Server: 'pop.tiscali.co.uk' Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0F Protocol: POP3 Port: 110 Secure(SSL): No Does anyone know of a email program I could use instead of WLM that is not too complicated to install.