Will you get the vaccine if it becomes available?

[IronGiant]

Apparently because we're currently doing the older generation who much prefer to go through their local GP's. And since they have the option of one or the other ...

Despite only being 61 I'd much prefer going to my local GP than a football stadium, even if it is only an extra 5 miles.

 

[rustybin]

It'll be annoying if he announces teachers are next up in his briefing tomorrow!!

They asked for proof of my employment when I arrived but there was nothing on my booking confirmation that said it would be required.

 

[acatweasel]

Smacks of people not being given a “what happens if” instruction.
Throwing the mass vaccination centres open to younger people when and if they aren’t being fully utilised is an obvious thing to do to bring down the infection rate. JDI.

 

[jole26]

I'd guess that empty vaccination centres are more to do with delivery supplies than anything else. It has been at the one I've been working at.

 

[rustybin]

I'd guess that empty vaccination centres are more to do with delivery supplies than anything else. It has been at the one I've been working at.

Nope. Plenty of slots available for me to book tomorrow if I wanted to. Which I obviously won't do.

 

[fluxo]

The AZ vaccine clearly has an image problem abroad. Yesterday I read that Switzerland may sell on its AZ vaccine order. Sweden, France, Germany etc., are not recommending its use for over 65s. South Africa has (or had) paused/halted its distribution to health workers. The US still hasn’t approved its use. And under 65s in Germany are rejecting the AZ vaccine because they want the Pfizer & Moderna vaccines instead.

I hope my confidence in the AZ vaccine is not misplaced. I must confess it’s a bit troubling to discover how it’s viewed elsewhere.

 

[WeeScottishLass]

The AZ vaccine clearly has an image problem abroad. Yesterday I read that Switzerland may sell on its AZ vaccine order. Sweden, France, Germany etc., are not recommending its use for over 65s. South Africa has (or had) paused/halted its distribution to health workers. The US still hasn’t approved its use. And under 65s in Germany are rejecting the AZ vaccine because they want the Pfizer & Moderna vaccines instead.

I hope my confidence in the AZ vaccine is not misplaced. I must confess it’s a bit troubling to discover how it’s viewed elsewhere.

I read a BBC article yesterday suggesting similar and some Italian doctors are refusing it and wanting the Pfizer one instead.

 

[jole26]

The AZ vaccine clearly has an image problem abroad. Yesterday I read that Switzerland may sell on its AZ vaccine order. Sweden, France, Germany etc., are not recommending its use for over 65s. South Africa has (or had) paused/halted its distribution to health workers. The US still hasn’t approved its use. And under 65s in Germany are rejecting the AZ vaccine because they want the Pfizer & Moderna vaccines instead.

I hope my confidence in the AZ vaccine is not misplaced. I must confess it’s a bit troubling to discover how it’s viewed elsewhere.

I think 'image problem' is the right description. There are early studies of Pfizer (and Moderna) suggesting a similar drop in efficacy to that of the Oxford vaccine against the SA variant for mild Covid.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2102017

 

[Lee]

I hope my confidence in the AZ vaccine is not misplaced. I must confess it’s a bit troubling to discover how it’s viewed elsewhere.

Wonder how quick they'll change their minds if the results from England match those from Scotland.

Link in the post by Andrew1472....

Have you had the Covid jab yet ?

I'm 40 and the wife's 39. Both like death warmed up. That’s an apt description, I think mine was lukewarm.

www.avforums.com

 

[goingoingong]

The AZ vaccine clearly has an image problem abroad. Yesterday I read that Switzerland may sell on its AZ vaccine order. Sweden, France, Germany etc., are not recommending its use for over 65s. South Africa has (or had) paused/halted its distribution to health workers. The US still hasn’t approved its use. And under 65s in Germany are rejecting the AZ vaccine because they want the Pfizer & Moderna vaccines instead.

I hope my confidence in the AZ vaccine is not misplaced. I must confess it’s a bit troubling to discover how it’s viewed elsewhere.

The irony is that the EU kicked up a stink because they had a supply shortfall but just a few weeks later due to lack of demand they now have an over supply situation.

Only 150,000 out of 1.5million doses of the jab had been used in Germany on Friday, with many deliberately skipping appointments after learning they would receive the Oxford vaccine.

In Berlin, the Tegel vaccination centres, which only offer the AstraZeneca jabs, say 200 people are keeping the 3,800 daily appointments, The Times reported.
Nadhim Zahawi says 'the evidence looks good' that vaccines stop Covid

 

[fluxo]

This is fairly well reasoned article by the look of it:

Not recommending AstraZeneca vaccine for the elderly risks the lives of the most vulnerable

A growing list of countries is recommending that the AstraZeneca vaccine only be use in those younger than 65.

theconversation.com

I think our approach is pragmatic, but it’s a bit of a punt (not too much, just a bit).

The obvious question: why didn’t AZ enroll more older trial participants? They’re the people for whom a vaccine is most important, so it’s not very helpful that the only statistically significant results are for other age groups.

 

[Mevlock]

COVID-19: Single vaccine jab linked to 85% and 94% drop in risk of coronavirus hospital admissions in Scotland, study shows

The lead researcher says the results are "very encouraging and have given us great reasons to be optimistic for the future".

news.sky.com

Covid vaccines - 'spectacular' impact on serious illness

First evidence from the UK's vaccine programme shows a reduction in hospital admissions in Scotland.

www.bbc.co.uk

That's an 85% drop for Pfizer

and yes a 94% drop for the Oxford jab!

Other countries are just shooting themselves in the foot.

Europe has messed up spectacularly here, and I've always been a remainer. Vaccine nationalism is going to be responsible, quite literally, for many many deaths this summer.

 

[kbfern]

Covid vaccines - 'spectacular' impact on serious illness

First evidence from the UK's vaccine programme shows a reduction in hospital admissions in Scotland.

www.bbc.co.uk

The AZ vaccine is perfectly ok for over 65's as the Scottish published figures suggest, it's a political thing with the EU they don't want to see our efforts as a success.

England's figures will confirm that I am sure, take whichever vaccine is offered as they are both winners.

 

[Tight Git]

If some European countries don't want the Oxford vaccine, great, that leaves more for us!

On a more humanitarian note, AstraZeneca promised to provide under-developed countries with the vaccine at cost, so more available for them!

 

[Panavision]

Covid vaccines - 'spectacular' impact on serious illness

First evidence from the UK's vaccine programme shows a reduction in hospital admissions in Scotland.

www.bbc.co.uk

The AZ vaccine is perfectly ok for over 65's as the Scottish published figures suggest, it's a political thing with the EU they don't want to see our efforts as a success.

England's figures will confirm that I am sure, take whichever vaccine is offered as they are both winners.

The EU is based on preventive principals, so they are very cautious when they don't have the data to back them up in case of legal matters.

If they don't want it, then we have more for us and poorer countries. It will also take them longer to vaccinate. AZ is perfectly fine for over 65s.

This could signal the break-up of the EU. Some countries must be enviously looking at the light-footed nature of the UK in times of crisis.

 

[Trollslayer]

Looks like we got out in time.

 

[Reyreyrey]

Leaders in the EU countries tried to save face by rubbishing the Oxford vaccine because they were late to roll it out. Now very few in the EU want it. They've potentially created a huge problem for themselves.

 

[Sloppy Bob]

It does seem absolutely insane.

 

[Trollslayer]

And we think Boris is bad.
Actually he is done a decent job for now but I expect he will slide back into his old ways.

 

[fluxo]

COVID-19: Single vaccine jab linked to 85% and 94% drop in risk of coronavirus hospital admissions in Scotland, study shows

The lead researcher says the results are "very encouraging and have given us great reasons to be optimistic for the future".

news.sky.com

Covid vaccines - 'spectacular' impact on serious illness

First evidence from the UK's vaccine programme shows a reduction in hospital admissions in Scotland.

www.bbc.co.uk

That's an 85% drop for Pfizer

and yes a 94% drop for the Oxford jab!

Other countries are just shooting themselves in the foot.

Europe has messed up spectacularly here, and I've always been a remainer. Vaccine nationalism is going to be responsible, quite literally, for many many deaths this summer.

Super news! A good day for us and a very bad day for viruses.

 

[Panavision]

And we think Boris is bad.
Actually he is done a decent job for now but I expect he will slide back into his old ways.

He has changed tact since Trump lost. Probably figured out that populism doesn't work in the long run. Just govern the country with pragmatism.

 

[SteveAWOL]

I read a BBC article yesterday suggesting similar and some Italian doctors are refusing it and wanting the Pfizer one instead.

Macron making the sort of stupid uninformed comment that we might expect from Trump

Macron: AstraZeneca vaccine 'quasi-ineffective' for over-65s - France 24

Macron: AstraZeneca vaccine 'quasi-ineffective' for over-65s

www.france24.com

Loose lips sink vaccine rollouts it seems!

COVID: AstraZeneca vaccine remains unpopular in Germany | DW | 20.02.2021

In Germany, everyone who wants a coronavirus vaccine should receive one by September. But this plan will only work if millions of people accept the vaccine produced by AstraZeneca.

www.dw.com

In Spain, patients with serious conditions left out of AstraZeneca early vaccination

For now the Covid shots will go to teachers, law-enforcement officers, firefighters and other essential workers, while severely immunocompromised people are being told to wait

english.elpais.com

Italy teachers balk at AstraZeneca vaccine plans

Italy’s main teachers' union is balking at plans for educators under age 55 to receive the AstraZeneca vaccine rather than jabs it believes provide better protection, evidence that lobbying groups are vying to get specific shots as the virus and its variants spread across Europe. The CISL School...

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[WeeScottishLass]

Macron making the sort of stupid uninformed comment that we might expect from Trump

Macron: AstraZeneca vaccine 'quasi-ineffective' for over-65s - France 24

Macron: AstraZeneca vaccine 'quasi-ineffective' for over-65s

www.france24.com

Loose lips sink vaccine rollouts it seems!

COVID: AstraZeneca vaccine remains unpopular in Germany | DW | 20.02.2021

In Germany, everyone who wants a coronavirus vaccine should receive one by September. But this plan will only work if millions of people accept the vaccine produced by AstraZeneca.

www.dw.com

In Spain, patients with serious conditions left out of AstraZeneca early vaccination

For now the Covid shots will go to teachers, law-enforcement officers, firefighters and other essential workers, while severely immunocompromised people are being told to wait

english.elpais.com

Italy teachers balk at AstraZeneca vaccine plans

Italy’s main teachers' union is balking at plans for educators under age 55 to receive the AstraZeneca vaccine rather than jabs it believes provide better protection, evidence that lobbying groups are vying to get specific shots as the virus and its variants spread across Europe. The CISL School...

uk.news.yahoo.com

Reminds me of a saying "cutting your nose off to spite your face"

 

[Philly112]

Hopefully the country's who don't want to use the AZ vaccine will be donating their contracted orders to places that will be grateful of them.

 

[mark1080p]

Sorry if it’s wrong thread. But noticed recently on the news, the vaccine numbers going down. I’ve been so used to seeing 400k - 500k. That <200k per day seems quite low now.

However on the local news they have mentioned more vaccine centres opening up, like the Madejski stadium (Reading FC) which makes the recent lower counts sound even more odd?

Any ideas? All I can think of, is that maybe the next level of people in groups 5-9 are smaller in comparison to the initial 1-4?