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Will we ever have a 1920x1080p plasma?

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by BigGanja, Apr 23, 2005.

  1. BigGanja

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    ....and I'm talkin' about a 37"-42" size

    I've read here and there and apparently people believe plasma has just reached its peak
    a resolution like that would only be possible on a big*** 70-80 screen like the new Samsung

    I hope this ain't true but the fact the new 37pv500 is just 1024x720 and not 1280x720 as It should be (lack of effort by Panasonic?) makes me think those "rumours" are maybe correct

    your opinions please
     
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    I think screens would have to be bigger then 50".
     
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    The answer to your question is yes.

    Currently 1080p PDPs are 70" and larger, but technology will allow for 1080p to migrate down to 50" and maybe 42" in time. However, economics and market conditions may dictate that companies may stop producing plasma panel sizes less than 42", they may even drop the 42". It depends on developments in competing technologies such as LCD, OLED, SED, DLP etc.

    Cheers.

    David.
     
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    Ive got to kind of agree but if they can get absurd resolution on a little TFt screen why is it so hard with a plasma?
     
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    Do you want the long answer or the really long answer? :devil:

    No, I can boil it down to this; TFT LCD and Plasma panels are entirely different in the method of operation and, just as significantly, the manufacture. Whereas LCD can be made using similar systems to semiconductors albeit on a greater scale, PDPs don't benefit in the same way. Until they find a way to make the plasma panel's pixel walls on the substrate much thinner without failing as an insulator and dielectric and falling apart (this still happens in current displays) and achieve major improvements in efficiency in the panel operation then the pixels have to remain relatively large and the aperature ratio low.
     
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    right.......
     
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    Watch out for the 50" SED panels coming out over the next year or two. Those are 1080p and (apparantly) have a contrast ratio of 100,000:1. I know, hard to believe isn't it. We'll wait and see.
     
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    Wouldn't 1920x1080 be overkill for this size display at normal viewing distances, given the limits of human visual acuity? According to Wikipedia: :lesson:
    At a typical viewing distance (2 to 2.5m), the individual pixels necessary to fill a 37-42" display at 1920x1080 wouldn't be distinguishable!
     
  9. BigGanja

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    thing is I've a very small room and sit just 6' far from the screen

    if I get anything bigger than a 42" I'd be even able to notice those little green dots typical of plasmas
     
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    Why on earth would you ever want the individual pixels to be distinguishable, if they ever are on any display then your sitting too close!! :suicide: :rotfl:

    Ryan
     
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    Yes, of course. I was trying to express the idea that there is a point of diminishing returns regarding the number of pixels in a display. Given the limits of visual acuity, an increase in display resolution after a certain point is no longer perceivable (assuming display size and viewing distance remain constant).
    The following article from the European Broadcasting Union discusses this issue (among others):

    High Definition for Europe

    Here's a quote from the article (p. 7; a viewing distance of 2.7m is assumed as typical):
     

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