Will the new Pioneer models allow high speed FF/Rewind?

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  1. Jon Weaver

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    Got a reply from Pioneer:<br />---------<br />The new 646 model will be like the old model and have limited FF/Rewind capability.<br />---------

    Ah well, thats the Pioneer of my shopping list...

    It might not seem like much.. But we are 5 generations along and I still can't believe that Pioneer won't let you do 'fast' FF/Rewind..

    DVD is Random Access after all and not linear like VHS!
     
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    Jon, it's funny what people look for in their gear. It makes me smile when I see reviews that criticise a player for only having one of two rewind speeds, and not half a dozen speeds like other models.

    I have never ever used FFW/RWD on a DVD yet...I just don't see the point. Most DVDs have enough chapter stops so I can get pretty much to where I want to be anyway. And as for RWD....

    That's probably why I bought a Pioneer 626! <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
     
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    I understand what you are saying, but perhaps the fact that you don't use it is because you don't have the feature.

    I use 'high speed' FF/Rewind all the time..

    If I want to get to a ceratin part of a film (ie to Demo it), I find that chapter marks could easily take you a fair whilst to far, depending on the title.

    At 32x you can just jump a fair way in with 'chapters' and then scan forward and back at high speed to get to the point you want.

    This is especially true on some movies where the chapter marks are VERY spaced out.

    However, I do have a need, which most don't.. I make SVCDs which can be upto 40 mins per track (chapter).

    I need the ability to scan through to find certain parts.

    I just don't understand why a manufactuer wouldn't include this functionality. Surely its not difficult to do and there is no down side (as far as I can see).. If there are people who don't want it, the FF/Rew speed could be changed in a setup menu.
     
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    The DV-545 has three FF speeds.

    You can always do an instant time search.

    Believe me, this machine wipes the floor with the competition. The image and sound quality are astonishing.

    Also, it is a lot less noisy than the Toshiba.

    Regards.
     
  5. Jon Weaver

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    Grubert,

    Please tell me more about the instant search time and the 3 speed.

    How fast are the 3 speeds?

    How does the Instant Search work?

    Cheers

    Jon
     
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    I have the DV-444 and am very pleased with it. There are three search speeds just labelled 1, 2 and 3. I did a quick test and search 3 covers a minute of video in 3 seconds.

    If you are into the tricks you should know that there is no zoom facility - not a biggie for me. Unusually there is a (single) speed search forward and backward when playing MP3s.

    Picture and (digital out to AV32R) sound quality are excellent. I have not tried the analog outputs. Thankfully transport noise is very low, only noticable on DVD when in a menu or skipping.

    All in all a great looking and performing player, great value at £220 region free and Macrovision disabled.
     
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    One reason why I have never bought a Pioneer, is the fact that they offer 1x/2x Fast-Forward/Rewind..

    This is opposed to most manufacturers who allow 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x, 16x, 32x.

    This was certainly true on the x3x models.

    I am hopeful that they have now introduced some high speed FF features on the 444,545 and 646.

    Does anyone know what the new Pioneers are like?
     
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    Jon,

    To do a time search, you press Search Mode (which cycles through title, chapter and time searches) and enter the time desired with the number keys. Hit Play, and you're there, in less than a second.

    I have already used this with my shoddy copy of Glengarry Glen Ross, which has NO chapter stops.
     
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    Nope...don't use it 'cos I don't need it. I haven't used it on any other machine I've owned either. Nor the zoom. I prefer to just watch the film, not play around with particular bits.<br />Anyway, each to his own! <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">
     
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