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Will the free digital channels go off as well?

Discussion in 'Satellite TV, Sky TV & FreeSat' started by Timh, Apr 27, 2002.

  1. Timh

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    ITV digital is soon to be turned off, but will this effect the free to air channels, surely they have nothing to do with ITV Digital.
     
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    The FTA digital terrestrial channels will be unaffected by ITV D's closure, they all have seperate agreements with whoever runs the various multiplexes.

    Most of the subscription channels seem to have agreed to leave their channels on for a limited time without payment or at least until any buyout is actually being negotiated.
     
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    mmmm. Feel a bit sorry for ITV with this one.

    Heres something which has been sticking in my mind!! -- How come they are being sued by all these crazy football teams (when its quite clear they are skint!!)? I read recently in the news that the contracts for these teams didn't actual start until August?!

    Rather than panicing now and making the whole thing worse - wouldn't it be better to find another sponsor? I don't understand. Any ideas?!

    Also - TVs with DVB build into them. Oh dear. All going belly up now. I guess that ITV digital will still be around in some guise (or another company will buy it?), but it doesn't look too good does it.

    Im sticking to Sky dig and analog!

    Where did Digital go wrong?! Heres a theory... Remember in the 80s/90s when you could buy dodgy cards for Analog Sky TV? Yeah - the encryption was naff. Remember the Scandanavian schannels (FilmNet etc) which used D2Mac - one of the most hacked scambling systems ever?!!

    Aparanlty Digital used a variant of DMac - Im guessing the encyption was worse than D2Mac. And from what I have heard, the market is flooded with copy-cards.

    Sky did it right - bought the encyption of the government - pretty much uncrackable. Investment worthwhile - look at how much they can charge now. If you want Sky, you HAVE to pay for it. Job well done meethinks.

    Crazy world.....

    Paul.
     
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    According to one knowledgeable forum member I spoke to, ITV digital selected an encryption system which had already been hacked. They were doomed to failure right from the start.
     
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    The Nationwide contract started August 2001 hence the birth of ITV Digital Sport channel. The second payment of the contract is due now and the third next year I believe.
    The first payment was completed and now ITV Sport owe approx £89 million to the Nationwide League.
    ITV sport bid a certain amount to win the contract beating other broadcastors and now they want to play less or just walk away.
    This can't be allowed to happen in any way, a TV channel can not out bid it's rivals then a year later start crying when it's not making a profit on the deal.
    If this had been SKY there would have been 10 times the outcry and Blair and his mates would have moved heaven and earth to punish them.

    Free To Air DTT is still going strong so long term the platform is not in any great danger infact when advertising revenues pick up again and they will then a few more channels might appear on FTA DTT. Integrated TV's and maybe even VCR's are the short term future and while I am very happy with SKY D there has to be a solid well performing DTT service.
    The regulators and government left DTT to commercial companies to sort out, well apart from blocking SKY from being involved and as usual this small interference contributed to the overall demise of On/ITV digital.
     
  6. Timh

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    Woudn't it be great if they dropped all the pay channels next week and doubled the bit rate for the Free to air channels [​IMG]
     
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    Yes it would.
    Set legally enforced technical standards/quality which are the best in the world and put pressure on cable and satellite.
    Not in terms of content but price/ease of setup and picture quality.
     
  8. Timh

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    I keep telling the mrs, think quality, not quantity.
     
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    LOL

    :)
     
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    I have a "friend" who 2 days before the UK Relaese of Windows XP swapped a copy of that and Office XP Pro to a contact for a SKY GOLD Card, all the channels. He already had an ON digital card, but gave his prepaid box back when he got the sky card. When it comes free and you have a choice, you choose the best. Moral of the story. Advertising pays for all of this, subscription just a drop in the ocean. The point is even Pirates prefer SKY DIGITAL.
     
  11. MartinImber

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    The FTA will be fine, again lets double the bit rates

    Mind you Auf ect Pet looked good last night

    As to DTTV tuners - the Integrated Sony are excellent
     
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    Hate to say but on Sunday all my channels dissappeared - FTA included !

    This is bad news
     
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    I agree - get the bit rate up!

    I decided on a Sony idtv when we upgraded our TV a couple of months ago, and have been extremely impressed withit, especially on the BBC mulitplex, where the bit rate must be a fair bit higher than the others, as the picture quality is usually stunning. Keep changing back to the analogue tuner (not for long!) to remember the bad old days!

    Never intended to get ITV digital, so it doesn't really bother me that it's going / gone off air.

    Would still recommend DVB to anyone upgrading their TV. Might even be some bargains deals around now.
     
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    My ITVD box lost all pay-channels and subscription info on Thursday night. FTA was still there but no pay TV. Message came up saying 'This cahnnel not on subscription'

    I did an Auto-Update on the box and they all came back.

    Might be worth a try. I'll check tonight when I get in.
     
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    Thanx Bill - that worked !

    I've now got 47 channels back :D

    Mike
     
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    Sky Digital gold card eh?! Sounds interesting. I didn't think anyone had managed to crack it.

    Does it work?
     
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    Aparrently so all the adult channels etc not seen it myself but no reason to doubt it, did I mention I am running XP Myself!
     

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