Question Why so much stutter on my EVGA 1080ti

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  1. JamesLFC2018

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    Hi guys, i purchased a evga geforce gtx 1080ti a few months back to go into my system that has a intel i7 4790 3.6ghz, 8gb of RAM, a 250gb SSD and a 2tb Sata hard drive using a Hdmi 1.3 cable on my 43 inch 4K Phillips TV, but when I try play games like PES 2018, FIFA 18, WWE 2K18 I am getting bad lag spikes, micro stutter etc on 3840x2160 resolution. surely a pc with these specs should handle these games fine at 60fps with no lag, stutter etc could it be because i'm using a 4k tv and not a gaming monitor and it may have bad ms response time?
     
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    Not sure about those games in particular but I have a similar spec PC that can do 4K60 fine with most games. The TV shouldn't be a factor.
    Out could be your settings in game are too high so maybe try turning some stuff off. It could also be a system issue where is struggling to load data into video memory. Try some benchmarks to see how your system is stacking up against similar spec PCs
    Also see what the frame rate and frame times are doing in MSI Afterburner to see if your hitting the 60fps 16ms targets
     
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    Oh right, I went on vsynctester and it was switching between 59.99hz and 60hz 16ms so not sure if it's going down to 59 sometimes I'm experiencing the lag spikes stutter etc
     
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    That wouldn't make any difference. You need to check the in game performance. Stutters will either show up as higher frame times or drops in FPS. See if there's a lot of them
     
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    Would I need to use msi afterburner while playing say a match in pes 2018, and check the frame times?
     
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    Yep, just leave it running in the background then switch back to it to check the graphs and see how the PC had been performing
     
  7. JamesLFC2018

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    Ok mate will do I mean I try run WWE 2k18 on 4k highest settings and I get like 45 fps shouldn't be right should it on my specs?
     
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    A 1080Ti will not give you max settings at 4K and 60fps on all games.
     
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    Anything I can do to hit that 60fps sweet spot?
     
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    Set it to low in game and work your way back up.
    Turn vsync off if on and see what you're hitting.
     
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    You're just going to have to mess about with dropping some settings. The joys of PC gaming mate :) Always feels like a win when you get it spot on and it looks great still.

    I'd imagine at 4K AA may be less of an issue so try dropping that perhaps.
     
  12. JamesLFC2018

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    Yeah I'm gonna try pes 2018 at low settings but still keep it at 4k resolution to see if it improves the stuttering etc it's annoying cos I at highest settings on pes 2018 at 4k I get a constant 60fps it just stutters really bad and lag spikes etc
     
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    All games are different unfortunately. Just a case of getting the settings right.

    If its not the framerate causing the stutter then I'm not sure where you could start looking with your system TBH. HDMI Cable perhaps. Not sure how good 8gb RAM is these days for gaming at 4K either. Are there any other RAM intensive processes running at the same time?
     
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    No I make sure everything else is not running in the background
     
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    I use a gtx 1070 ti , with my 4k sammy ,and every thing runs smooth , (with v-sync set to on) ,
    as said above tho , turn off v-sync ( for the moment ) and find the right settings , start at low to med game settings and work your up , you can use the inbuilt game benchmark or a program called FRAPs . to measure the FPS ( this could take some time tho, so be patient )
    look for the magic 60fps while testing , and once you have found the right setting that will run the game at 60 fps or just above it , turn v-sync back on this should stop or limit screen tearing and have a smooth game play .

    as for lag , this could be down the TV your using ,
    your TV should have a setting called "game mode" turn this ON .
    if you can't find it , try renaming the HDMI input that the pc is connected too, to "PC or console xbox /PS4" , this then might give you the option to enable game mode.
    game mode turns off all processing that the tv does to make the picture look nice,
    which in turn should reduce the lag/latency of the game making it feel more responsive .
     
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    Is there an amd equivalent to the 1080ti?
     
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    Unfortunately not
     
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    Here's my experience with 4K60 on the following setup
    I7 4790k 16GB RAM and MSi 1080Ti.
    4K60 games I've managed so far with most settings turned up high
    • The Division
    • Rise Of The Tomb Raider
    • Witcher 3
    • Destiny 2
    • Titanfall 2
    • Inside
    • Alan Wake
    • BF1
    • SWBF2
    • Mirrors Edge Catalyst
    • Overwatch
    • Watchdogs (although I did get stutters as it streamed data in, but it was playable)
    • Dishonoured 2
    • Mass Effect Andromeda
    • Wolfenstein 2 New Colossus (although this has a v-sync bug at this res)
    • Sleeping Dogs
    • Need For Speed
    • Project Cars 2
    • Assetto Corsa
    • Forza Horizon 3
    • Forza Motorsport 7
    • GTA V

    Some games I couldn't run at 4K60 with Max settings were
    • Ghost Recon Wildlands (had to turn down a lot to get 4K60, 1080p max ran fine)
    • No Man's Sky (no surprise there, had to resort to 1080p)
    • Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice (just a few settings turned down to run at 4K)
    • Deus Ex Mankind Divided (35fps, 1080p 60fps with everything on)
    So a 1080Ti won't monster every game out there at 4K, especially the some of the more modern games but it's been working really well for me.
     
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    @Eddy555 Hi dude thank you for your input ;) I noticed i'm only running 8GB of ram which may not enough for 4k60 gaming, so i'm gonna upgrade that to 16gb when i can i also have 4790 cpu
     
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    Memory use will vary between games, but it could be useful long term, it's just a shame it's so expensive at the moment
     
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    Yeah I know man, it is expensive, I managed to get pes 2018 now running at 4k60, I turned down certain render settings in game like goal net and crowd were set to high so put them to low etc and the stutter seems to have disappeared
     
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    @Eddy555 or anyone in this forum i've just loaded up MSI Afterburner on my PC and something doesn't seem right on the core clock for my 1080ti etc? this is when no games are running and pc is just sitting on the desktop?

    [​IMG]
     
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    That is right , when the GPU isn't in use , it will downclock it self , so that it is not running a load on it while idling .

    you will notice when your playing a game it will show a core clock of about 19xx
    then drop back down again when not been used .
     
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    @sykotik Oh right, I downloaded the EVGA precision ocx software and applied the kboost option to enable my graphics card's full potential, will it be okay to leave kboost on all the time? because when i had kboost on and i tried pes 2018 on highest settings on 4k I get a solid 4k60fps no stuttering but when it's off I had stutter
     
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    Not really no , kboost runs the GPU at max all of the time , even when at idle,
    so .. it will running at max all of the time , using power up , and pumping heat into the case , for no reason , and could shorten the life of the card , if left on all of time .
    best to turn it off ,
    cant see why , it would make a difference to stuttering games tho.
     
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    You can run GPU-Z in the background (no install necessary) and monitor whether your GPU load is hitting 100%. If it is, then you know your bottleneck is GPU related somehow. I can recommend GPU-Z as a clever and light utility for that purpose.

    You also have such an impressive card, even your 4790 CPU -and/or other components - could end up being a bottleneck in some situations, so you might want to check that too.
     
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    I recommend some self-diagnosis for starters. If your system is struggling in a game then it's pretty straightforward to get stats in the corner of your screen to see what's going on. Have a look at Riva Tuner Stats Server (you can install this along with Afterburner or separate), by default it just shows FPS but you can pair it with HWInfo to probe your CPU core %, temps, GPU %, VRAM usage, pretty much everything you want. Plenty of info online.

    You don't want to have all this info on your screen all the time but if you're going to play PC games it's useful to be able to spin this kind of info up. For instance, I played Crysis on a 1070 and it still struggled, turns out that one core of my CPU was 100% and pretty much everything else was idling. It that case, it was the nature of the beast. There's no point overclocking a GPU if it's your CPU that's throttling your system.
     
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    if running through steam it has a built in fps clock you just have to enable it
     
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    Have you tried a DisplayPort cable?
     
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    This won't make any difference in this case.
     

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