Why so many Samsung threads?

Boostrail

Distinguished Member
Hi

It has come to my notice that every time I view the LCD sub forum the majority of threads seem to relate to Samsung TV's.

I did a snapshot count at three times in the last five days and the proportion of Samsung related threads on the first page of the forum varied from just over 65% to just over 70%.

Ok I appreciate that Samsungs are the best selling LCD's at present. But their market share is probably less than half that of their thread representation on this forum.

Are their TV's therefore more problematic or what?
 

nick8571

Active Member
The popularity of Samsung TVs might be one reason, but don't forget LG has its own subforum here: LG Forum at AVForums.com (admittedly not obvious to the casual visitor)... are you including those threads in your overall count?
 

Nielo TM

Distinguished Member
Samsung are at the number one spot in terms of sales (followed by LG).


The majority of well known Japanese brands have pull-out of the western market. Not completely but we don't get Asian equivalent models anymore.


But if you go to the plasma forum, there are more Panasonic threads than LG and Samsung.
 

NX3

Well-known Member
It goes in patterns depending on who brings out new models. Sometimes you'll see a lot of Sony postings, other times Panasonic, Toshiba or random....
 

davidcharles

Well-known Member
samsung also tend to bring out a confusing number of tv's with different "names"...if you look at the thread list, there's dozens of model numbers. All very confusing and therefore alot of questions asked on the forums....
 

mattclarkie

Distinguished Member
It's because Samsung TVs are rubbish and don't work, so a lot of people post 'Help! My crappy Samsung stopped working' threads :laugh:
Most 360 owners also seem to have a Samsung, nearly every poster in the 360 forum seem to have a Samsung.
 

davidcharles

Well-known Member
It's because Samsung TVs are rubbish and don't work, so a lot of people post 'Help! My crappy Samsung stopped working' threads :laugh:
Most 360 owners also seem to have a Samsung, nearly every poster in the 360 forum seem to have a Samsung.

thats interesting, i wonder why?...i have a 360 and obviously a samsung as well....must have been subliminal messages when the 360,s first came out, they were demo'd with samsung tv's if i remember......perhaps were all under mind control to get a samsung?
 

mattclarkie

Distinguished Member
thats interesting, i wonder why?...i have a 360 and obviously a samsung as well....must have been subliminal messages when the 360,s first came out, they were demo'd with samsung tv's if i remember......perhaps were all under mind control to get a samsung?

Samsung owners always recommend Samsung TVs, whenever you recommend something that isn't Samsung a Samsung owner will argue that Samsung is better and that all their friends have Samsungs that they love (based on their recommendation to buy Samsung).
Samsung is like a virus, it grows exponentially based on recommendations from people that only have a Samsung because it was recommended to them by somebody who was recommended a Samsung. I would like to know who patient zero was, go back in time and prevent anybody ever buying a Samsung :hiya:
 

GGTVBD

Well-known Member
Why so many Samsung threads?

As you rightly say, bigger market share than any other brand. The words 'LCD TV' and Samsung go hand in hand for most average Joe's. Most are very happy with them. But the average Joe who's a 'gamer' or is trying to get super duper HD from whatever source will, more often than not, be disappointed. Hence the moaners on here and other forums.

Are they less reliable? They were pretty poor, true. But the sets from 2009 on are no less reliable than anything else out there. There was a time when 8 out of 10 sets we repaired were Samsungs. So ignore the eejuts who post Samsung bashing crap. They're just regurgitating the crap they've read. ;)

Samsungs are the Ford Escort of TV's. Nothing wrong in that, if you expect and are happy with that level of performance.

Shame you can't put a K&N filter n' a big bore exhaust on. :)
 

russ331

Active Member
Which? Magazine April 2011. Pages 50 - 53

Best TV Brands for overall performance
1. Samsung. Score 66%
2. Panasonic. Score 65%
3. Sony. Score 62%
4. LG. Score 61%

Best TV Brands for overall reliability
1. Sony. Score 97%
2=. Panasonic & LG. Score 96%
4. Samsung. Score 95%
 

cuke2u

Well-known Member
Hi, well done russ331 for pointing out what is factual. Over the years I have owned several products manufactured under the Samsung label, they have always been of the highest quality and never has one needed repairing or replacing.
Chris
 

mattclarkie

Distinguished Member
I'd ignore those figures because they come from Which?, they aren't known for being very accurate about things.

Expect the Sony reliability to plummet from the 97%, many of the 2007/2008 production run are being repaired or replaced by Sony at the moment (including mine :(). I'd guess of the 2007/2008 sets atleast 10% of them have failed for some panel related reason, and it could easily be 50% of them that have a fault which just hasn't displayed yet.
 

GGTVBD

Well-known Member
Which? Magazine April 2011. Pages 50 - 53

Best TV Brands for overall performance
1. Samsung. Score 66%
2. Panasonic. Score 65%
3. Sony. Score 62%
4. LG. Score 61%

Best TV Brands for overall reliability
1. Sony. Score 97%
2=. Panasonic & LG. Score 96%
4. Samsung. Score 95%

Not worth the paper they're written on!

How did they come up with these figures?

When?

Over what period?

The current top of the pops through our workshop is LG - lots of power supply failures.

Hi, well done russ331 for pointing out what is factual. Over the years I have owned several products manufactured under the Samsung label, they have always been of the highest quality and never has one needed repairing or replacing.
Chris

Factual to 'Which'. But they are questionable 'facts'.

My post above reflects that, on the whole, Samsung have had problematic products (referring specifically to LCD/plasma TV's) but they seem to have resolved these issues.

I'd ignore those figures because they come from Which?, they aren't known for being very accurate about things.

Expect the Sony reliability to plummet from the 97%, many of the 2007/2008 production run are being repaired or replaced by Sony at the moment (including mine :(). I'd guess of the 2007/2008 sets atleast 10% of them have failed for some panel related reason, and it could easily be 50% of them that have a fault which just hasn't displayed yet.

That's pure speculation.

No doubt Sony have had some pretty poor products over the last few years though, agreed.
 

mattclarkie

Distinguished Member
When Sony US, UK and Australia announce free repairs or replacement for the
KDL-40W4500
KDL-40W4710/20/30
KDL-40X4500
KDL-46X3000
Forum & Communities: Bravia TV Panel Failure

or their regional equivalents, and many more complain that their 40V3000 and 46V3000 have the same fault I'm inclined to believe the problem is pretty widespread. With a problem spanning so many models it shows that it is pretty much every panel with an issue and not just 1 or 2 batches that were affected, and there have been a lot of complaints over the last 2 years, with the number growing as more panels reach the 2-3 year failure window.

I doubt Which? have even heard of this issue, let alone factored it into their numbers.
 

cuke2u

Well-known Member
Hi, if you want to disagree then that's up to you, I can only speeak from own experiences as a owner and a IT Technician as too Samsung's quality. Anyway those facts published by Which quite clearly demonstrate there is little difference between the top manufacturers.
Chris
 

cuke2u

Well-known Member
Hi, as far as I understand do not 'Which' get their information from us as consumers? You can believe who you choose to believe, it is a free country. For me I tend to believe them over someone who makes some obscure link with 360's and Samsungs, then allude to a samsung being like a virus...
Chris
 

mattclarkie

Distinguished Member
The type of people that subscribe to Which? are, to put it kindly less 'savvy' and 'older'. I certainly question the experience their reviewers have based on reviews I have read and the comments they make on programmes such as Watchdog.

You wont find many under the age of 30 subscribing to Which?, and that will immediately skew their figures even if they aren't just made up.
 

RicksonGracie1972

Distinguished Member
The type of people that subscribe to Which? are, to put it kindly less 'savvy' and 'older'. I certainly question the experience their reviewers have based on reviews I have read and the comments they make on programmes such as Watchdog.

You wont find many under the age of 30 subscribing to Which?, and that will immediately skew their figures even if they aren't just made up.

But surely, regardless of age, if a TV stops working it stops working and therefore the score under “reliability” should be fairly accurate
 

Boostrail

Distinguished Member
When Sony US, UK and Australia announce free repairs or replacement for the
KDL-40W4500
KDL-40W4710/20/30
KDL-40X4500
KDL-46X3000
Forum & Communities: Bravia TV Panel Failure

.

I always understood that the panels used in these Sony TV's originated in exactly the same plant that the panels in the concurrent Samsungs did. (S-LCD - joint venture)

As for the Which Surveys people will always say that what they have is best as to say otherwise makes them look as though their judgement is poor. Hence the over 95% ratings whioch are within themselves statistically no different
 
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Boostrail

Distinguished Member
The type of people that subscribe to Which? are, to put it kindly less 'savvy' and 'older'. I certainly question the experience their reviewers have based on reviews I have read and the comments they make on programmes such as Watchdog.

You wont find many under the age of 30 subscribing to Which?, and that will immediately skew their figures even if they aren't just made up.

I can assure you that us oldies also think the Which reviews these days are worthless and aimed at numpty's. They used to be far better when I was under 30.

e.g. to test a washing machine they ran it 24/7 with the full recommended load until it broke. In addition its wash performance was assessed scientifically not just by a panel of ladies who enjoyed the afternoon out. They also had an engineers evaluation which reported on design/build quality/potential failure points etc.
 

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