I've had some experience with Yamaha receivers having owned the 590 and 592 RDS models and recently demoed the newer 620 model but they were all surpassed by my Harman Kardon AVR500. I've not heard Denon but are willing to believe they are very good. But these two brands and to a lesser extent Sony are all you ever hear about on this chat site - does anyone own or listen to anything else? Harman Kardon gets very good reviews in HCC but you don't hear them mentioned at all, can't understand why. Is it all hype, is it just self fullfilling so that since Denon and Yamaha are always mentioned people assume they are the best. I'd be interested in hearing from someone who has demoed or owned a number of differant companies kit. Where did this reputation for Yamaha and Home cinema come from was it What HiFi? i'm not always convinced that they are unbiased in their reviews.