Why not the Samsung LE40R51......?

[Faust]

With regard to the Samsung LE32R41/51BDX. I have seen the Samsung in operation many times and have always admired both its looks and the PQ on this panel, and yet you rarely hear anyone mention its much larger sister the LE40R51. Assuming this panel is the same as its smaller sibling I cannot understand why it is not a more popular choice?

 

[dllord]

I think its because it costs about £1600 and not £600 for 26" or £850 for 32". therefor less people have got one! But as far as i know they're all the same except for the size obviously!

 

[tugboatbill]

Hi Faust. I saw this Samsung in Harrods a few months ago and to my eyes it was more stunning than nearly every TV on display, LCD and plasma, at up to twice the price. The only one to come close was a 37" LG. I was looking for the 37" JVC to compare it to because there seems to be little info about that one either. The JVC was not on show but the Samsung outshone all the Loewes bar one (costing twice as much), and the highly regarded Panasonic plasmas. I did note this on a previous thread but there was no real response so perhaps it's a set that is not too popular?

My choice now seems to be between the Samsung, or it's EISA award winning brother soon to be launched in the UK, the new generation 37"/40" Jvc, the new 37" Toshiba or 37" Hitachi.

The list keeps changing every week as new models replace old, the phenomenal pace of change seems to be faster than that of every other technology out there - and jeez don't those model numbers start to get confusing after a while

 

[richard plumb]

tugboat,

My local comet (or might have been powerhouse next door) had the 37" JVC next to the 40" Samsung. Almost identical HD pictures.

I like the look of both, but the 40" is very big, and the wife doesn't like the triangliar big at the bottom.

JVC is currently winning but waiting to see the Tosh.

Size wise its 100cm x 70cm for the 40", Vs 90cm x 60cm for the JVC. 10cm might not sound a lot, but 10cm in each direction is a lot when you have bits of paper cut out on your wall!

 

[dllord]

tugboat,

My local comet (or might have been powerhouse next door) had the 37" JVC next to the 40" Samsung. Almost identical HD pictures.

I like the look of both, but the 40" is very big, and the wife doesn't like the triangliar big at the bottom.

JVC is currently winning but waiting to see the Tosh.

Size wise its 100cm x 70cm for the 40", Vs 90cm x 60cm for the JVC. 10cm might not sound a lot, but 10cm in each direction is a lot when you have bits of paper cut out on your wall!

Wait for the LE40M51B to come out next month, it hasn't got the triangle bit at the bottom, and it looks awsome!

 

[tugboatbill]

Thanks for that Richard, I think I will try your template idea just to see quite how big these are in my lounge.

I know what you mean about the diagonal trim on the Samsung but the new LE40M61B model looks superb from the photo's - mind you so does the new Hitachi.

Here is a link to the Samsung
http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/PressRelease/PressRelease.asp?seq=20050816_0000184560#

 

[richard plumb]

Thanks for that Richard, I think I will try your template idea just to see quite how big these are in my lounge.

I know what you mean about the diagonal trim on the Samsung but the new LE40M61B model looks superb from the photo's - mind you so does the new Hitachi.

Here is a link to the Samsung
http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/PressRelease/PressRelease.asp?seq=20050816_0000184560#

Noooo!

just as my plans were settling down. That sammy looks the business - bit like the JVC. Wonder what the pricing will be like? Still, 40" might be too big, but its a definite contender - I thought the 61s were identical to the 41/51s.

 

[dllord]

Noooo!

just as my plans were settling down. That sammy looks the business - bit like the JVC. Wonder what the pricing will be like? Still, 40" might be too big, but its a definite contender - I thought the 61s were identical to the 41/51s.

The LE40M51B and LE40M61B are the same, but the 61 is all black and the 51 has a bit of silver at the bottom!

I fancy the 51 myself but am waiting to find out how much they are going to cost!

-------------^^--LE40M51B--^^--------------..................-----------------^^--LE40M61B--^^-----------------

 

[jonbd]

I got the le40r51 today and have to say I am astounded at the quality!! At the moment i've only got it connected to my PC via VGA, and use a freeview tv card in it, and aso for DVDs etc. The quality is amazing and so sharp, even getting up really close to the screen, and games are fan bloody tastic!!

The only problem I am having at the moment is with my modded Xbox. I have an x2vga thing to get hi def over vga, but if I try and play games on it, I get a picture mode not supported on the TV, unless i'm in the avalaunch dash at 720p, strange!

 

[Mr. C]

Had a look at samsungs homepage, and the M51 seems to be the same as the R-serie. Wonder if the M61 is worth the extra money, or are the differances only "numbers on a paper"? Compared the 40M51 with the philips 32" 9830, no question which had the better PQ though (philips).

 

[MovieBoy75]

I should be getting my LE40R51 today so will post some pics up as soon as i can. Let's hope it is as good as the 32" version.

DVDCHILD

 

[richard plumb]

i'm confused now. I thought the 51 was just the DSG slightly blacker version of the 41, and they all had wedgy bottoms? so the 40" was always a JVC lookalike?

Can someone please measure the set when they get it? Just the set width and height, not the stand. Cheers.

 

[dllord]

Had a look at samsungs homepage, and the M51 seems to be the same as the R-serie. Wonder if the M61 is worth the extra money, or are the differances only "numbers on a paper"? Compared the 40M51 with the philips 32" 9830, no question which had the better PQ though (philips).

How have you seen the PQ of the M51? I thought they wernt out yet!

 

[origbow1]

Hi,

The Samsung LE40R51B is my preferred choice of LCD at the mo. £1440 for a cracking TV... However, I have a couple of dilemmas:

1. This set doesn't have a built in Freeview tuner (32" does).
2. There are two new Samsung 40" LCD's due in Oct (LE40M51B & LE40M61B) with some improvements...faster response etc.

My question is although prices are very thin on the ground for these new models do they just £650 more than the LE40R51? Also, what are peoples thoughts on not having a Freeview tuner...as if I add one I will lose a scart socket (only 2 available on this set.. )

My reserve choices are the Samsung LE32R51BD (or 41BD), or the Toshiba 32WLT58/37WLT58 (Awaiting to see this in the flesh).

Appreciate your feedback and comments.

Peter

 

[richard plumb]

origbowl,

If you like the looks of the Samsung, also consider the JVC 32/37DS6. About the same price as the Toshiba and getting good reviews.

 

[Moogle]

2. There are two new Samsung 40" LCD's due in Oct (LE40M51B & LE40M61B) with some improvements...faster response etc.

I don't know where you got the faster response time from. The response time is the same on both.

 

[richard plumb]

I noticed a comment about the Sony being much better than the Samsung re: response times in games in the Sony thread.

Anyone got any comments about it here, or about the JVC 37DS6?

 

[Mr. C]

How have you seen the PQ of the M51? I thought they wernt out yet!

It's out over here, not UK-resident..... I've also seen the M61, but did not know what it was when I saw it, thought it was too big so did not pay attention. Was in to have a look at the 37" 9830 only out of curiosity, it's a bit too expencive for me, but it was a big dissapointment. Seemed to have major problems with frame-rate (not smearing, but jumpy picture), but that must have been a DVD-player problem with up-scaling since I never saw that problem with the 9986.

 

[Giblets2]

I have to say that these new models seem to be exactly what I'm looking for - I was sold on the LE40R51B until I tried it out and just couldn't take the motion blur - that started me looking at much more expensive Panasonic plasmas which are better PQ on the fast-moving stuff but are not full HD resolution (only 1024 horizontally) and are currently sold out for ages!

Looks like Samsung have answered my wishes - I too hated the 'Hot Gossip' bezel (I'd even considered spraying it black if I'd bought one!) and they've answered that, 8ms has just GOT to be better than the older model - I'm going to wait until I've seen it mind you... and they're quoting a 10-bit colour model now like the Panasonics. Futurehome even have it in stock (so they say) so I'm desperate to try one out for real.

If anyone knows where and when we will see these somewhere in the flesh then I'd really appreciate being in the know.

P.S. Has anyone got a refresh rate figure for the LE40R51B? Samsung don't seem to list it, I wonder why?