I have just purchased my first DVD recorder, a Pioneer 530. Overall I am impressed. However, I do believe that the whole set up appears to be somewhat quirky because of issues such as the differences between VR mode and Video mode. For example, if you record in Video mode then edit points are not frame accurate. However, if you do record in VR mode edit points are accurate but you lose the ability to use high speed copy to DVD. Also in Video mode each title can only contain one aspect ratio so long recordings with adverts in different aspect ratios get split into multiple titles which you then have to individually select before you can copy to DVD. (This is useful for editing out the ads.) The Pioneer has the ability to automatically set chapter points in a recording every N minutes. However, this is ONLY used when recording from HDD to DVD in real time when for some reason any manual chapter points you put in would have been lost. (The edit points are maintained in high speed copy??) Chapter points are not auto inserted in any other recording. I feel that I am reasonably AV savvy (and I have recorded/edited DVDs on a PC) but the whole process on a set top DVD recorder seems somewhat idiosyncratic. Im certain that someone like my parents would never work out how to use it. (They use a Thomson PVR instead.) Is it just Pioneer that has these issues or is the problem the underlying difference between Video and VR modes, HDD and DVD recording, etc? Does all the complexity come from having a single box with so many features?