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Why has the Z2 created such a reaction ?

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by common, Nov 24, 2003.

  1. common

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    As the search function does not allow 'Z2' as it's too short could someone give me the topline on the Sanyo Z2.

    I was thinking about a plasma but I've got a big dining room that's not used very much..... !

    I would need progresive scan from my DVD and Xbox with a feeview box being added at a later date - does the Z2 have enough inputs for this ?

    Is the Z2 much better than something like a Panasonic A300 ?

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    I'll hopefully know later this week when I've seen one :eek:

    ;)
     
  3. ROne

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    My take on the z2 (having owned a MT1, Ae100, MT7, z1) but not a z2 yet - is it took the recipe of the ae100 and capitalised on it.

    A great HCPC friendly - super tweakable (lens shift, service menu etc), projector at a fab price. The projector was also quite a leap over even some expensive projectors (which I have owned) in some areas.

    Apart from the dust-blobs, It had very few faults - and it had that feeling that everybody was tweaking stuff together.

    I loved it, and it was the cheapest projector I ever owned.

    I think the z2 is poised to jump onto the back of the fuss from the z1 and be the "it" projector of the coming year ...
     
  4. buns

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    Well the Z2 is so popular here because of ivojo. Simple.

    It would be as any other new release but for the great price leading to large numbers of pre orders which has led to huge amounts of discussion.

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    Common:

    As I've pointed out here before .. a large number of people seem to have broken what is usually the cardinal rule all newbie would-be pj owners are taught .. DEMO BEFORE BUYING. :laugh:
     
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    at the moment, the Z2 is the only one of the new breed available in the UK (well except the hs20 but it is a different price bracket) so really it has no competition at the good price

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    But a good number of people are still buying in the hope that Sanyo will deliver ... without any detailed independent reviews and solely from specs which, in the case of CR for example, are often highly dubious. :)
     
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    well i got my Z2 today, and there is a review at projector central, and i have to say the wait has definately been worthwhile!the pq is a substantial improvement on my panasonic ae200 and IMO very very good!
    Not only is it a very good performer but very good value, i got mine for £1050 cash hehe!
    Fred
     
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    Ivojo obviously jumped at the opportunity to supply (what appeared on paper at the time) a cracking product at a great price.

    However, myself who is still a virgin pj'er until my Z2 arrives had read around this forum, avs forum and searched the world reading various opinions on "budget" pj's. It was the same the world over, the Z2 would break the mould in the budget sector and further more its older brother the Z1 had a good following and built up a deserved reputation as a good reliable budget pj.

    Independent testing has been undertaken in Germany (first to get z2 units) and these can be seen at

    http://translate.google.com/transla...rch?q=plv-z2+test&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

    and

    http://translate.google.com/transla...rch?q=plv-z2+test&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

    Admittedly these reviews came out after I had placed my order with Ivojo, but I could not loose with the Ivojo offer. Take the offer price and if it was labelled a dog in the first reviews I could simply cancel the order and go for something else.

    It seems that there are two slight issues with the Z2, slight vertical banding (mainly noted on avs forum) and over red pictures on avs and some German forums.

    However these can be accommodated by "tweaks" as already posted on avs forum, use of Digital Video Essentials (better for grey scale calibrating than Avia (read post somewhere re Avia apparently has some chroma mixing in it etc) or ultimately the use of an ISF calibrator such as Gordon from convergent.

    I'm learing all the time and I'm sure I've still got a lot to learn.
    It's like your first girlfriend, leering what you can / can't do and what you think you know and what you realise you don't !

    Regards,

    Chris L.


    but it
     
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    wish i could go into my gf's service menu :devil:

    Unfortunately, avsforum is giving a wrong idea of things. I had this idea as well, but now i know better. The impresson given is that you get a good calibrated machine and copy it which is wrong since settings will vary dramatically at times between machines. The VB seems to be easy enough to tweak (maybe not to perfection) via menu 14 in the facory menu. The grayscale thing I am told (by specialists) is easy to fix, but not necessarily so with your eyes. So I would be wary trying to tweak the greyscale by eye, probably best to use the high temp mode and fiddle the user controls. For this reason i decided upon getting a hardware device so i could be sure

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    Which, of course, is something you would never do :laugh:

    I agree with Buns, the Z2 has caused such a stir on this forum because Ivojo made us an offer we could not refuse!

    In terms of whether it is a big step up from the AE300, the general impression I seem to get from AVS etc. is that the Z2 is a large step up from the AE300/Z1 but that there is not much in it pq wise between it and the AE500 - although the Z2 has features like lens shift that could tip the balance for the individual.
     
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    of course the Z2 is way preferable to the AE500..... well for us anyhow given the lack of 240v direct support, lack of english menu and lack of UK warranty. If someone asked me which to buy, the Z2 is a no brainer until the AE500 is officially released here

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    Yep, but by the time we get our Z2's the AE500 might be out here! :D : :(
     
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    ah but its got loads of VB and lmited talk of fixing.....

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    were did you get your z2 for £1050
     
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    He got it form an enterprising lorry driver;)
     
  17. buns

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    ebay man i think

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    yup an ebay man and everything checked out-i called Sanyo in the early hours of this morning and i have a full English warranty.
    bargain of the century!
    Fred
     
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    did he only have the one?
    Suppose your not allowed to give the traders name on AVF....
    Nik
     
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    i presume the VBs are vertical bands? on the Z2 thats a complete non starter if thats the case!!, which is a pity because it sounds like an excellent projector otherwise and great value.

    can the VBs be got rid of ???
     
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    hey there Rossers,
    I am getting another one from him to sell to you guys at a much discounted price to what they have in the shops. Warranty is all English and everything is what you would get from say Ivojo. I will also do a pixel check to check for dead pixels.
    Anyway i am not getting it for such a good deal anymore!i am getting it for a couple of hundred quid more or something-apparently the demand outweighs the supply..lol!
    Anyway i will probably be selling it for £1275 on here in a week or so so keep your eyes out!
    cheers
    Fred
     
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    Fred, are you sure the location bit on your user info is correct? Shouldn't it be Peckham, London...... :D
     
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    haha!
     

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