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Why does my PC feel sluggish

Discussion in 'PC Gaming & Rigs' started by dUnKle, Jul 31, 2005.

  1. dUnKle

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    Help please

    Have the following spec - Nforce 4 MB running AMD 64bit 3800+ CPU along with 2048MB of Ram and 2 6600GTs in SLI along with a 300GV SATA HD

    The whole thing though feels sluggish

    Have done a fresh install on WinXP and installed all latest drivers but not convinced all is as it should be

    (1) I get about a 20 second wait at the blue "welcome" screen as WinXP boots and then another few seconds once the desktop appears and the icons do

    (2) Loading of games etc feels no faster than on many other systems I have used

    (3) When opening foldres in seems to take 3 to 5 seconds for the icons to appear

    Any ideas
     
  2. AML

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    Try defraging the hard drive. Over time your HDD will get full and it will need to be defraged to keep things organized so that the PC can access everything faster.

    Of course nothing beats a good re-instal of windows.
    I did this recently and now its starts up in mere seconds.
    Files are accesed much more quickly.

    Maintenance of your PC/windows is just as important as the hardware you are using.
     
  3. dUnKle

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    Thanks mate

    As stated though just done that and seems to have made bugger all differance
     
  4. gargoyle

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    There's a good chance that the hard drive may be either suffering bad sectors or may be damaged in some way - reinstalling the os would'nt make any difference - format, then reinstall the os, if the problem persists, given the large amount of memory in your machine, only the hd could be responsible for the sluggishness so you best bet is to buy a new drive.
     
  5. Joe Pineapples

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    check to see what processes are loading on windows startup, and if you actually need them all. Also check for spyware running. I use....

    microsoft antispyware beta
    spybot
    adaware se

    Obviously check for a virus too, but in my experinece its usually spyware which gives the sluggish feel.
     
  6. HMHB

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    Have you got a PSU that can cope with all that ?
     
  7. dUnKle

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    I hope so

    Pc is not self built but looking the PSU seems to be 650W

    the MB is SUS A8N-SLI Deluxe Mainboard - DDR400, Dual GB LAN, IEEE 1394, SATA 3GB, PCIEX16, SLI Ready
     
  8. Hawklord

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    You have rememberd to install your motherboard drivers haven't you? (It's amazing how many forget).

    Are you using all the up to date drivers for your graphics card? Are you sure you've set up the sli properly (i have no experience with this i'm afraid).

    Have you done any 3d benchmarking?
    Try 3dmark2003 and 3dmark2005. These will both give your system a work out and and give you a score which you can compare with similar set ups. It's a good way of getting the lay of the land and seeing if your system is performing as it should.

    If you need more help why not try over at http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/index.php?s=

    I have found the help there to be priceless and they all are willing to give help and advice ;)
     
  9. dUnKle

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    I think so

    installed latests nforce 4 drivers if thats what you mean
     
  10. AML

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    When you first instal windows you need to instal all the drivers for the motherboard. (lan drivers, chipset drivers, etc..)
    As well as GPU and sound card drivers. Then theres stuff like Direct X 9c.

    You need to go through everything and make sure its all up to date.

    I agree that there could be a problem with the HDD. There are many kinds of HDDs so try to use one that is fast (7200rpm) and has enough cache. (8mb)
    Also SATA hdds dont respnd well to overclocking, so if you are doing that try to go back to stock settings.

    I still say a good defrag works miracles. Esepcially after you have instaled windows.

    As was stated, before you reinstal windows you have to re-format the hdd.

    Finaly use spyware removers and check the HDD for viruses.
    If you format the drive that shouldnt be necesary but you never know.
     
  11. Joe Pineapples

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    good idea ;)
     
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    I must be the odd one out in that I've never noticed a speed improvement after doing a defrag ! If you are using NTFS you hardly need to defrag anyway.
     
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    ?! :confused: XP fragments really easily John! Diskeeper shows Windows 2000 frags really slowly and rarely needs defragging, but on all XP systems I've used, despite XP being 2k with more crap, frags heavily and quickly. Not sure why..............

    Windows own defraggers not worth the time of day if that's what you're going by.
     
  14. HMHB

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    Yes it is the windows defraggers I've used, so that may explain it. What would you recommend instead then ?
    Honestly, my work PC has only been defragged once in about 4 years and it still shows as not being needed - with the windows standard one.
     
  15. dUnKle

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    Going to give a few of your suggestions a try - thanks

    just a couple of quick q's

    (1) What defragger should I use

    (2) What services can I safely can rid of and hoe do I get rid of them ? Im purely after a system for gaming and web browsing so just need graphics, sound, seetings for my 24" Dell and mouse etc
     
  16. dUnKle

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    may have found the problem

    I have checked hardware devices and I still have 1 with a yellow ! next to it

    It says its a device on my PCI board but I cant not think of ANYTHING that it could be - as far as I can tell my PC only has 1 PCI device and that is the wireless card that is installed

    Is there anyway of finding out what this device is
     
  17. Joe Pineapples

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    what is the exact description in the hardware list?, and what heading/group is it under?
     
  18. dUnKle

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    Its listed under ? Other Devices as ! unkown Device

    I then get Device Type : Other Device
    Manufacturer Unkown

    Location PCI bus
     
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    Try disabling it and see if that speeds up the boot time.
     
  20. HMHB

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    You could also try removing it to see if it detects it again at bootup time and gives an indication as to what it is.
     
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    O&O Defrag is a good one......................
     
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    I use diskeeper professional for defrag. A great programme!
     
  23. HMHB

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    I've finally defragged my C drive using the inbuilt defrag tool with XP and it hasn't made any difference to my computer at all, so I'm still a cynic :D
     
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    Agreed games. Makes a big difference, in particular with XP.

    What have you installed/uninstalled recently? I had this problem and it turned out (after trying all the installed hardware and printers) to be a printer driver that hadn't installed correctly.
     
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    sounds like some sort of hardware conflict to me, ive had exactly the same type of problem in the past due to haupagge tv cards and nasty irq conflicts...

    try removing the wifi card from your pc (and the drivers too), and if that doesnt change anything you can at least rule it out as the cause...

    other than that, download all your systems drivers again and reinstall them...
     

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