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Why do you want a plasma?

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by Artie Fufkin, Apr 1, 2005.

  1. Artie Fufkin

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    I do not wish to come across as confrontational, but I am wondering why plasma is so popular.

    I'm on the lookout for a new telly but, after several viewings, both plasma and LCD seem rubbish compared to my old rear projection CRT. There is no way I would buy anything but CRT.

    Is it just the aesthetics of the equipment which appeals?

    Surely you guys/gals posting on here are aware of the differences in picture quality between CRT and every other option available to us.

    What then are your reasons for choosing plasma?
     
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    do you mean rear projection CRT set or a normal CRT telly??? (big differences.....) if normal CRT telly then shop demos are crap and very few places can actually show plasma properly get a proper demo and you will be blown away!!!!!
     
  3. Artie Fufkin

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    To be honest...both.
    I respect your experience horny , but I cannot agree that plasma will blow me away.

    The displays I have seen in shops and friend's houses are beset with jaggy edges, smearing, lines and blockiness. Yes, maybe this is because of poor set-up, or source, but I have my doubts.

    I would rather "put up with" a CRT's geometry issuses any day than the fuzziness and lag of a plasma. It seems to me that sharpness of picture has come at a price - that being the famed "cinematic" quality of an image.

    I would love to be proved wrong - a slinky plasma would fit nice in my house, but my first priority is picture quality.
     
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    there are a few select places where a "proper" plasma can be seen.......I was lucky enough to see piers personal system Panny 42PHD7 with some HD TV a while back :eek: OMG it blew me away....................I have seen a lot of plasmas................a lot of TV's (the finest in the market) and it was jaw dropping soo if you are anywhere near the midlands i suggest you ask him nicely if you can see a demo..............it is seriously good.

    WALLET HEALTH WARNING: BE prepared to part with £3.5k+ if you can walk away without wanting one I'll eat my tail..................... :devil:
     
  5. Artie Fufkin

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    Ah, now you see, you've brought HDTV into the equation. Which isn't really fair at the moment, is it?

    I have not seen a HD picture anywhere other than my lappy, so I cannot comment with authority.

    Surely though, whatever the source, the current plasmas will still exhibit the annoyances which I mentioned before?
     
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    PQ on plasma can match CRT. Its just that you need a good scaler such as Lumagen to bring the likes of SKY broadcast up to scratch at present. Big money for me unfortunately :(
     
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    Well I got a plasma after my crt tv and it's great. Not a lot else to be said really. Girlfriend has a 28" hitachi crt and it just doesn't compare. A lot does go down to the signal being input. Her free view box is rubish as is her dvd. The old saying rubbish in rubish out
     
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    Kherm, sincerely, you need to demo some decent setups of top brands if you want to see a good picture. If you've seen plasma from currys etc at your mates houses, you ain't seen nothing yet. No HDTV needed, though of course that makes it easy. It'd be fun for all to prove our point, and might help you to justify having a flat thing on your wall instead of a dinosaur in the corner, you know you want to! So whereabouts are you, we'll send you to the nearest specialist.
     
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    None of that here. No scaler or HDTV either.
     
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    once setup properly plasmas look fantastic.

    would never go back to a crt or other now.

    Plasma all the way!

    Dal
     
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    I've 'upgraded' from a 32" Sony Wega Trinitron, which I hope you'll agree is one of the best pictures on a TV. My PW6 gives a PQ which is equally as good...but here's the rub....it's 10" bigger. Even when CRT manages to get to 36", there are issues with blur etc. I haven't noticed any blur on mine at all - even with football...but I have seen it on other plasmas! The thing is, my PW6 cost £1250, the Wega £1350 (5 yrs ago).

    As for rear projection CRT....does it really need discussing? Even the new DLP sets, which do give a picture as good as a properly set up plasma seem to have a problem with viewing angles.

    Posting on a plasma forum with your original question is going to result in predictable responses. HD is right, go and see a plasma properly set up. All my mates (most of whom aren't that into technology) comment on my plasma...no-one really did with my maegre 32" screen. Size does matter!
     
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    tv quality remains questionable on plasma´s but that´s something of the source. DVD and gaming quality is awesome if connected through component (or VGA) :D
     
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    lets face it..TVs have never and will never... give you that cinematic filmic look and wow factor..esp on HD. But I am spending 7k+ on a top top plasma and scaler!

    no contest really.

    Dil
     
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    Exactly. mine is fed from a Sky feed some channels look good some look bad. not the plasmas fault but sky sending low compression on the channels.

    I agree DVD and my PS2,Xbox or Gamecube look fantastic.

    I also agree with the comment about the 32" wega screen i also owned one of these sets and for the money there was not a better quality CRT screen.

    At the end of the day if you want a plasma get one. if u dont then stick with what you have got. Everyone is different.

    Dal
     
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    I have none of the above on my set up, and although the PW7 is crticised for being soft, with component connection it really rocks.

    I had the CRT/Plasma dilemma and reduced it between the Toshiba 36" picture frame CRT and Panny PW7 in the end. I managed to get decent demos of both and the picture quality on the CRT was stunning. The PW7's extra size and superior colour (I prefer realism to vibrance), combined with it not dominating my living room in the way a 36" CRT would (even the relatively diminutive picture frame model), won the day for plama.

    My best friend has a 36" Philips top of the line pixel plus CRT and yes, the picture is bright, stunning, awesome even. But so far everyone who has seen my set up has been far more impressed than they are with the CRT. And my set up was not expensive (just over £1,600 for the home cinema, plasma and boards/leads).

    Tell your friends to get their plasma's set up right and not to skimp on interconnects (my component leads cost £80+).

    Unless of course they went out and bought a Tiny or an LG (Ross-P, THIS IS A JOKE).
     
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    Just to add that there is also the advantage that it is very thin so you can hang it on the wall and not lose loads of lounge floor space as you do with CRT... especially rear projection as they are massive!

    lisa

    Oh and also, the picture is different to a CRT but I have found that I am now getting more and more used to it and prefer it to the CRT I have in my bedroom..
     
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    My mother has taken my 'old' 32" Wega. When I set it up at the weekend, I showed her the picture modes....she preferred 'live', which is extremely vibrant, but to me it now appears too harsh compared to the more natural PW6 picture. If I want images like that though, I could always switch my plasma to 'dynamic' (after the 200 hrs)...but I don't think I will.

    Horses for courses!
     
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    I was in the same dilema with the old top quality CRT being better. Well Untill wife refused to have a large 36" CRT stuck in the corner so I went for plasma
    and I can honestly say I havnt got any of what you mentioned, but as said previously I use good cables, Sky can sometimes look as good as a DVD and I have checked to see if DVD is playing before now. But not all sky chanels look this good unfortunately which certainly pionts to the feed in.

    What you do find on plasma is they amplify any imperfections being fed to them. DVDs on the other hand with a good player (I have Denon) really do show why plasma are uo there with best.

    I had a 28" JVC CRT before this which I paid £700 for so wasnt cheap and the Viera certainly blows it away, even wife thinks so and she cant normally see or hear any diff im my AV equipmemt and norm agress with what I say just to shut me up, but on this issue she said before me.
     
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    How do you have your consoles connected ? I have the XBOX,PS2,GC component. DC,SNES and PC Engine Supergrafx SCART. Does a component cable exist for the Dreamcast ?
    p.s. PSP , Nintendo DS and Ipod Mini are USB connected :D
     
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    i dont have them all connected.

    The Dreamcast,Snes,Gamecube and Megadrive are all in there original boxes under my bed. The X-Box is plugged into the Tv in my bedroom and the PS2 is connected to my PW7 via RGB Scart.

    I think liksang used to sell the component cable for the dreamcast i just run mine off a RGB scart lead. Great output.
     
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    when I first got my plasma I was shocked, it was pants, I was ready to take it back but after reading advice here I bought a moderately good Scart lead for each item thats connected to the plasma and PQ increased no end. played about wiht the contrast and brightness and there is no way on earth I would go back to a CRT. 28" telly now looks pathetic. plus the screen size being sooo much bigger god knows how it does it but the front room just looks much larger too :D so all in all if anything my house looks bigger. feels bigger, looks smarter and I have that cinematic feel in my own home :D everyones a winner
     
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    I also bought my 42" plasma because I wanted a bigger screen. I found my 32" CRT just too small for displaying 2.35:1 movies and I only sit about 9 feet away. I find that the benefits of the large screen far outwiegh the slight loss in quality on non DVD sources. However, DVD looks absolutely stunning and I can find very little fault with the picture.

    I haven't gained any floor space as all my home cinema kit still takes up exactly the same space which is bigger than my old CRT or new plasma.

    Anyway, I've started saving for my next big screen in about five years time. Hopefully this will be even bigger but may not be a plasma. By that time, who knows what kind of screens will be available.
     
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    plasmas are the best thats my easy answer

    get a plasma all my m8s are well jealous theres no comparison gaming tv dvd what ever when there on the wall they look and are awesome and ive had a few diferent tvs projectors etc
     
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    We got a plasma because it was the largest screen we could get and one of my main concerns was being able to play multi player halo and be able to see the detail when the screen was split!
    I guess if we could have gotten an LCD at 42"+ then that would have been good, but Plasma technology is the only way at the moment.
    We coughed up £1299 and have claimed the VAT back so for what we paid we did well.

    We did consider putting another Projector into the study but it would have been an overkill for us and the sun comes in so we needed a TV as opposed to a screen/PJ.

    We are really happy with it and as Lisa says hanging on the wall - well you just cant beat it! A bit of trunking and all the cables are hidden away.

    Cheers

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    You can't beat a nice big 42" plasma ( whatever the make ;) :D ). Its true some sky pictures can look a bit dodgy depending on the channel ( the movie channels look very good for instance ) but DVD feed through a decent scart looks awsome.
     
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    Some interesting comments, thank you.

    I really didn't think that plasmas were capable of giving a picture as good as I am used to with my 48" RPCRT, but maybe you have me convinced, at least to look into it further.

    I guess I might have some trouble sourcing a good dealer though - my closest city is Aberdeen. There is a Panasonic shop and a Sony shop and one reasonable, but small, independent dealer I can think of, but that's it. Oh, we have a John Lewis too.

    As for those who mentioned the size issue, it doesn't really matter that these plasmas are slim. Due to my living space, it would have to go in a corner anyway [on a stand], so would probably take up nearly as much room as my RPTV does now.

    I am a bit confused with regard to scalers and boards. I have gone through much of this site and am still not sure as to what I might require.

    The plasma would be connected to a Tosh XS32 DVDR [progressive], a freeview box, and a video for occassional use. Also, is it wise to have a professional install it? I think I have enough experience to be able to sort settings so as to get a picture I like on a regular telly, but is it a different kettle of fish with a plasma?
     
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    Had my LGPX11 for 4 days now, still ****ing about with the picture! nearly there now :D
     
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    Only 4 days!
    How did you manage to cause such a stir so quickly?
     
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    nearly where..................nearly taking it back for a pio FDE ala neonmod? anyone else see the similarities
     

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