1. Join Now

    AVForums.com uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

why do we do put the hour back and forth in the UK?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by shahedz, Oct 30, 2005.

  1. shahedz

    shahedz
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2005
    Messages:
    10,300
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Ratings:
    +1,231
    as per title. i heard it was something to do with farmers not having enough day light or something, is this true? do any other countries do it?
     
  2. Mr Cat

    Mr Cat
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2003
    Messages:
    2,190
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    51
    Location:
    Weardale
    Ratings:
    +57
    i think it stems from world war 2 - it was either the farms, or to do with industry, but i'm not totally sure...would like to know the exact reason myself...
     
  3. Jenn

    Jenn
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2005
    Messages:
    6,894
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    133
    Ratings:
    +1,261
  4. Mike-M

    Mike-M
    Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2004
    Messages:
    1,263
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Lincoln
    Ratings:
    +30
    I believe it was done during WW2 in order to give the farmers more daylight to work the fields.
    I can also remember one year late 60's early 70's sometime going to school in the dark (about 8:30) because they tried something else that year which wasn't successful
     
  5. LV426

    LV426
    Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2000
    Messages:
    12,815
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Somewhere in South Yorkshire
    Ratings:
    +5,023
    There was a five-year trial when we stayed on "summer" time all year round.

    But unfortunately seventy-one (*) vociferous Scottish farmers successfully lobbied for us to revert to this pointless practice.

    The whole argument about "more daylight" is completely banal. There are exactly the same number of minutes of daylight on any given day, regardless of where the hands on the clock are pointing. If seventy-one (*) Scottish farmers have difficulty, what stops them from starting work at 0600 instead of 0500 (or whatever)?

    (*) or an equally small/insignificant number.
     
  6. shadowritten

    shadowritten
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    Prefer GMT myself - always feels like 'proper' time, somehow, as opposed to the 'artificial' BST ...
     
  7. Mep

    Mep
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2004
    Messages:
    9,543
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Ratings:
    +468
    the Scots point is that in parts of Scotland it wouldn't get light in the morning until 9:45 and this would be dangerous for kiddies travelling to school..........but surely its then dark in the evening anyway when they are travelling home?
     
  8. eviljohn2

    eviljohn2
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2002
    Messages:
    7,529
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    86
    Location:
    Near London.
    Ratings:
    +208
    I think that we should retain the current system, but also shift the entire working day an hour forwards during BST so it's 8-4 rather than 9-5. Then everybody wins. :)
     
  9. Mr Cat

    Mr Cat
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2003
    Messages:
    2,190
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    51
    Location:
    Weardale
    Ratings:
    +57
    well, I didn't exactly get an extra hours kip this morning - phone rang early (on call from work) and I had to come in...sigh...
     
  10. Mr Incredible

    Mr Incredible
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2003
    Messages:
    22,930
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    The Fylde Coast
    Ratings:
    +11,878
    I don't think the farm animals know how to change their clocks. ;)
     
  11. Steven

    Steven
    Senior Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2005
    Messages:
    36,452
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +6,230
    I think we should have one system for the majority, and the existing system for those that live in North, north Scotland. How [censored] that live 300 miles from me can affect how I live.....[expletive]
     
  12. Miyazaki

    Miyazaki
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2003
    Messages:
    14,304
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Ratings:
    +849
    Why don't we just stay on GMT and let the jocks go an hour ahead in the summer?
     
  13. KoThreads

    KoThreads
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Messages:
    2,966
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    86
    Ratings:
    +158
    Exactly, it would be no diffrent to someone going abroard for us then, and they would be happy as well.

    My brother went to Egypt 3 or 4 weeks ago and the clocks went back while he was there, so he has gone through it twice in just over a month.
     
  14. shahedz

    shahedz
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2005
    Messages:
    10,300
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Ratings:
    +1,231
    if it is a small minority of farmers in scotland who wanted the time change, surely it makes sense for them to adjust than make the whole UK go back and forth? so egypt also puts thier clocks back and forth? whats thier reasons?
     
  15. Steven

    Steven
    Senior Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2005
    Messages:
    36,452
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +6,230
    The farmers couldn't be had being the only ones who change their clocks...no they want the rest of us to do it as well so they feel OK about the whole stupid thing

    Read the wiki article...strange Mexico have adopted it, due to economic ties with US...even though it has a tropical climate

    Lets have a referendum on it.....President Blair?
     
  16. Alan_W

    Alan_W
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2000
    Messages:
    1,391
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Location:
    S Wales
    Ratings:
    +189
    The North Scottish farmers are about 40 years behind anyway so what difference will one more hour be? :rolleyes:
     
  17. pragmatic

    pragmatic
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2004
    Messages:
    12,120
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    133
    Ratings:
    +1,678
    I heard it was due to the WW2 and factories and farms ect needing the light, plus working at day light is safer than having lights on at night during the blitz. Why they couldn't just black out the windows is beond me though.

    I beleive we have out licencing laws/hours for the same reason and the government used to (maybe still do) control how much beer was watered down so people didn't get to drunk
     
  18. Dr Diversity

    Dr Diversity
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    All this talk about daylight saving time has got me thinking...what has happened to all of the daylight saved? Is there a massive Raiders of the Lost Ark style warehouse with anonymous crates full of daylight? Is it being saved for when the world's natural energy runs out and we haven't got around to implementing renewable energy? Is it being released in Downing Street to top up Tony's tan or perhaps we should be looking to David Dickinson and Judith Chalmers for the answer...
     
  19. MartinImber

    MartinImber
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2001
    Messages:
    3,851
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    71
    Location:
    Worcester
    Ratings:
    +21
    I'd rather stay BST but just move work times and TV times
     
  20. MartinImber

    MartinImber
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2001
    Messages:
    3,851
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    71
    Location:
    Worcester
    Ratings:
    +21
    HUGE ERROR

    I mean stay GMT :clap:
     
  21. FoxyMulder

    FoxyMulder
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    Talk about racists attitudes, apparently we're all "jocks" up here and other things, selfish attitudes exist on these boards and i don't appreciate the slang "jock"
     
  22. pragmatic

    pragmatic
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2004
    Messages:
    12,120
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    133
    Ratings:
    +1,678
    I'm sure 'jock' was only made in jest, and selfish refers to those that wanted BST over GMT as it effects everyone in the british isles.
     
  23. FoxyMulder

    FoxyMulder
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    I don't care if made in jest or not its racist and since we are ALL part of the UK then maybe you can have a debate without throwing insults at 5 million people, for the record i prefer the clocks the way they are now and would rather we didnt keep moving them about all the time.
     
  24. Stuart Wright

    Stuart Wright
    AVForums Founder Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2000
    Messages:
    13,866
    Products Owned:
    6
    Products Wanted:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    167
    Location:
    Birmingham, UK
    Ratings:
    +9,611
    What's this *we* and *them jocks* attitude about? This forum belongs just as much to people from Scotland as it does to you whereever you are from.
    I think you should apologise to Scottish people for your insulting attitude :lesson: :nono:
     
  25. eviljohn2

    eviljohn2
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2002
    Messages:
    7,529
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    86
    Location:
    Near London.
    Ratings:
    +208
    Even Adrenochrome?! :eek: ;) :D
     

Share This Page

Loading...