Why buying OLED now is a waste of money

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    1. drummerman

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      MicroLED is about to launch big time.

      In a year, the sets will be affordable.

      Anyone buying OLED now should, imo, hold out a few month.

      OLED will be out of fashion like 3D shortly due to its problems and pitfalls. Samsung will hold the monopoly for some time unless LG and other manufacturers catch up.

      Everyone seems to concentrate on 8k when really, the underlying display technology is far more important at present.
       
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      I think we’re talking a lot more than a year to get it affordable. Hell, it doesn’t even exist below 75 inch yet.

      It’s a stunning concept, just making its way into the first depths of production, but as yet is not scalable in quantity or price.

      We’re talking at least CES next year at best until we see a smaller one, which will be astronomical in terms of price on release.

      What Samsung don’t have yet that LG have with oled is the support of the rest of the tv manufacturers making economies of scale possible.

      OLED out of fashion? You’re talking out your rear. In the Uk, it accounts for 65% of all premium tv sales. That won’t disappear overnight. In 2019, and in 2020, and in 2021, it will continue to be cheaper and cheaper. Sure, when MLED is released, it may beat oled in quality, but at least until 2021 it’s not going to be competitive in pricing. Deja Vu for oled, as on UK release in 2014, despite being better than LED at the time, took until 2016 to begin to be a serious player.

      So no, buying OLED now is not a waste of money. It’s the best PQ money can buy at the moment, and given a normal tv life cycle is 4-6 years, oled buyers can rest assured that MLED is not worth thinking about until they change their tv.
       
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      As above it isn't a waste of time, it will be at least 3-4 years before we see micro-led tv's for sale, the ones Samsung had on display this year had dead pixels, and damaged edges from putting them together, until they can make them without any of the 33 million pixels being dead if going 8k resolution , and and at least 55 inches at a reasonable rate price wise they arnt even in the running, if you want the best right now then oled or a high end fald are not a waste of money.
      Im as excited as the next av enthusiast as to what micro-led brings to the table though and cannot wait until they are a viable option
       
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      As others have said, it will be at least 3 to 4 years until micro led becomes affordable, and mainstream. This has been the same for and OLED is the best you can buy at this point in time, for the tim3 frame I’ve already said.

      It is exciting though; let’s see what happens!
       
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      No it's not... It's not even scalable to normal living room sizes yet. It's a long way off.

      Not a chance! Unless, by affordable, you mean affordable by professional footballers, who also happen to want a 75" TV.

      Few years at least, not a few months.

      Yes, you could sit on your hands for three to five years, but by then any technology will be out of date anyway. So you're proposing people just keep what they have now on the off chance that Micro LED ever becomes practical?
       
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      Even when Micro LED becomes commercially viable, OLED won’t dissapear, because it still offers unique abilities, to name two, Rollable and transparent screens.
      Transparent screens for commercial advertising is a mouth watering proposition (think shop windows) and large rollable screens in the home will have plenty of fans too.
       
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      Drummer man just doesn’t like pdp and OLED, he is an lcd fan as quoted many times on a forum that is no longer available :)
       
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      Wrong. Just wrong.

      And participating in this has already taken up more time than it's worth.
       
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      If I had to buy again today, I would be more than happy with OLED. If I had to buy when there is a comparable priced micro led, then I would let my eyes decide again.

      For me personally, something else will have to go a long way to tempt me away from OLED
       
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      Transparent screens have been used in shops and advertising for years, you don’t need OLED to do it.

      Bill
       
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      And there will be two or more years for OLED to improve even more
       
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      it will be 3 to 5 years before we see viable commercial micro led
       
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      This is exactly what people said 5-6 years ago - i.e. 'don't buy new plasma/led TVs because OLED TVs are going to be available soon' - but 'soon' ended up being a few years (at affordable prices)

      The microLED TVs may provide advantages but it is going to be another few years before they appear at prices 'normal' people are willing to pay... if you are buying a premium TV within the next couple of years, OLED is still likely to offer the best price/performance compromise
       
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      With microLED I feel that we are where OLED was in 2005-6 - lots of demos at CES and the promise of commercial models "coming soon". But it's likey the yields are <10% which is likely why Samsung have adopted the tile approach. But it took another 7-8 years to get the first models onto shelves with proper production (i.e. not the pilot line products like the Sony/LG <15" OLED tvs). The warning signs are there - no company willing to talk about release dates for anything other than ultralarge displays. The reason the ultra-large displays come first is that because the engineering challenge is so high with yields in the toilet it doesn't matter because the company can charge a fortune for it. It's very likely that even if Samsung can sell any "wall" displays it's likely they will be making a loss per screen even at >£50k. Once the yields have improved, it will still take 1-2 years to procure the mass production equipment and transfer the process.

      Remember than smaller OLED screens came ~2-3 years before TVs so once Apple or Samsung release a watch or phone with microLED screen we are still going to be at least 2 years away from a 'real' commercial product.

      Finally, if microLED is really a year or so away, why would Samsung being gearing up for a QD-OLED production line?
       
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      What, in 3 years that premium OLED 4K HDR images are suddenly going to look bad?

      Sigh.

      There is a difference between enthusiasm and fanaticism.
       
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      Is this thread a wind up?
      Does the OP realise the microLED is nothing more than a concept ATM?
      And a consumer release is a while away?
       
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      I don't quite understand these umm, posters.. feel the need to keep posting their opinion/viewpoints as fact (especially when much is instantiated).

      If they were trolling on youtube for clicks to earn money I could understand it, but forum posts ? its just a bit weird.
       
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      do seem to be a lot of faulty OLED tvs going by the forum so does put me off buying one at the moment, so guess some truth in it they need to come up with more solid tv's.
       
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      And in a few years, when microLED is finally hitting mainstream, somone will be posting that microLED is a waste of money as perovskite quantum dots are on the way. And then...

      But in the meantime I’ll be enjoying my OLED TV.
       
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      It is wait and see , What and when.
      Tech is Na cent always changing , what is this years
      all dancing bells and whistles in a few short years will be
      old and time for a upgrade.
      Use your Eyes look at the T.V. does it look good from the sides , or washed out ?
      What do you intend to use it for , Free to Air T.V watching , then dont buy an OLED.
      OLEDs are only good for watching Movies on despite the claims they have overcome
      burn in , Would you test that claim on an Expensive New set ?
      If you are in the market for a new T.V. do your home work first , ask other owners
      and not just the Sales Person trying to make their Commission.
      Buy a brand name , you only get what you pay for , as my Neighbor found out
      he bough a Cheap one , then he needed to buy Again , A brand name.
       
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      Brilliant!!! I needed a laugh first thing this am.
       
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      I bought a 55" B8 in the black Friday sale, I did this with the expectation of getting a 65" OLED or Micro Led in 2021/2022, the B8 picture is stunning and as a stopgap well worth it IMO
       
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      I still see my 1080p oled in use in 5 years time tbh. I'll let the people with money to burn adopt early and bring the prices down. :)
       
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      Nah,

      I'm waiting another 6-8 months for 16k to be invented, become scalable, enter volume production and then become affordable.

      My trigger point will be around £150 for a 200-inch foldable transparent screen early next year.
       
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      May as well change the thread title to WHY BUY ANY TV NOW IS A WASTE OF TIME, as there is always something new on the horizon which will be better, more affordable.

      Micro LED looks great, but its currently at 75'' for the smallest and certainly wont be cheap.
       
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      Tend to think most of the big boys are bypassing the OLEDs and shooting 100inch plus images with 4k projectors, so that is the target they need to aim for before serious players enter the ring for OLED tv need to make bigger so it is not just a little boys market.
       
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      Another one of those pointless threads...
       
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      Sony and Apple are, and have been working on mLED too, once they perfect the etching process they will bring them to the home market. This could be a year or 4 years, but they are getting close unlike the stretch OLED took due to the problematic issues of OLED. I could careless about a rollup screen however a much lighter slimmer screen is nice. I remember when most everyone on this site said 4K UHD was a waste, you couldn't see a difference, oh how wrong you all were then. I've seen high ratings on this site about Sony's Z9D series, I bought one at $3.5K, not impressed for the money and Sony's propriety approach. No dissing to OLED's in a dark room, and avoiding burnin, they are the best screens out there right now, and light to handle, unlike my full-array Sony, Drummerman may not be 100% accurate in his predictions but I hardly think you all are either, from my observations over the decade(s). OLED's are still expensive and fragile, they were suppose to be cheap a long time ago, guess they missed that point.
       

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