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Why bother with Freeview?

Discussion in 'Freeview & YouView' started by GerdanJ, Nov 4, 2003.

  1. GerdanJ

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    Would love to be enlightened! Why bother with Freeview when:

    1- Most consumers if wanting more channels could get Sky which will give you a massive choice with free installation.

    2 - Freeview boxes cost £100

    3 - Freeview channels seem to be simply the main terrestrial channels plus not very exciting ones such as sky news.

    Am I missing a trick? Is the signal better (which would be great for someone like me with a 100hz tv)? Will Freeview start to air more interesting channels?
     
  2. hornydragon

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    freeveiw is great for feeding plasma LCD and for people who arent in a cabled area and dont want a dish or to line Mr Murdochs pockets!!!
    Also people who just want a bit more choice without paying through the nose! ie sky for 3 years £1 instrall (recon box) £30 amonth no pay per veiw 36 x £30 = £1080 Over 3 years freeveiw will have cost you £99! Also freeveiw boxes start at £50-60 and even the twin Sky+ equivalent is £250 and no subs of any description.
     
  3. WeirdFish

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    Is that it?

    :D



    Made me want it and I'm already lining murdoch's pockets :p
     
  4. Miles@9

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    GerdanJ,

    This is your second post against Freeview. Do you work for $ky sales or something?

    Try Freeview for yourself. I pay £ 40 per month for $ky whish is going up in January. I have another $ky box for the bedroom, but this cost another £ 10 per month (£ 120 per year)

    Against this I could buy a Freeview box for less than £ 100 with most of the best channels and DAB radio.

    But if money is no object then buy $ky boxes for every room in the house. Freeview just makes alot of sence. Only IMO of course.
     
  5. PhilipVass

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    Not all people are willing to pay for something they might not watch.
    Freeview is designed to get analogue viewers to go digital before 2010.
    Currently to get sky installed it will cost you £10 and you are landed with a year contract so the receiver is not yours.

    No, you are wrong there what they mean is it will cost upto 100 pounds.
    You can pick up a brand new DTT receiver for £50 and as little as £10 on eBay for an ex Ondigital unit.

    Well, that's a personal thought some people find them interesting for example there is good Entertainment on Ftn which is the best of Trouble/Bravo and Living TV.

    Disney/ABC have signed a deal to launch a new family channel showing movies ect. which means top quality Entertainment.

    Sky Travel is to be turned into a new Sky Entertainment channel in a few years.

    and finally Freeview is now in 2.5 million homes!
     
  6. hornydragon

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    Well if he does work for sky he isnt doing them any good!!! on the other hand if he works for freeview he might be helping the cause!!! (i dont mind that so much really)
     
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    a) I refuse to pay $ky a fortune for their substandard, logo-ridden services.

    b) see above.
     
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    Ahh the briiliantness of anamorphic widescreen for all the terretrial stuff. Just lovely. :D

    I have a Netgem Iplayer, great little thing, lovely to watch the rugby in widescreen without haviung to pay $ky! (Especially the ITV2 stuff)
     
  10. GaryB

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    I think the advertising ridden Web Site says it all. There's a vested interest here methinks.

    I wanted widescreen. I wanted BBC3/4 and ITV 2. I wanted 5Live in better than AM quality. I didn't want a dish on my house. I didn't want to line Mr Murdoch's pockets. Freeview was exactly what I wanted.
     
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    Why would anyone setup an anti-Freeview website? :confused:

    To me Freeview seems to offer a very good service - for the price of a TV adaptor (or including in the price of an iDTV) you get a number of extra channels that satisfy people who don't want movies or sport in droves. It offers a modest number of channels but they are free which is why it's been so successful.

    Personally I have Sky and Freeview - I need the latter as it offers significantly better picture quality on BBC channels than when watched through Sky. So even for Sky viewers Freeview has something to offer!
     
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    I totally agree with your views:)

    Lets not forget that freeview is the only practical method to encourage the majority of analogue users to switch to digital, long term that benefits everyone in the country.
    It's a cheapish solution especially if you have a modern aerial, there are problems of course with DDT transimission but they will be solved and even though I had to replace my rooftop aerial it was still good value.

    SKY+ and SKY FTV on the other hand supplies 90% of my viewing and as such is worth the subscription I pay, however I don't earn enough to make it viable to be the only digital source and running 3 televisions. It's FTA and FTV credentials while they do exist (Performance, Motors TV etc etc) probably won't expand over the next few years, Freeview certainly will expand as the user base increases and the gap between the two platfroms for non-subscription TV will grow.
     
  13. hornydragon

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    From www.free-veiw.co.uk
    Yeah unless it rains, snows or you live in a flat, have nesting birds, live in a conservation area, should i go on!!!:rotfl:
    Did i mention when "the proffesional installation" is over you will have lovely black coax all over your house, holes everywhere and oh yes a lovely huge black box in your lounge that will tie up your phone line (and make calls you didnt ask it too oh and if it dials the brazillian talking clock by mistake for 4 hours everynoght and gives you a £400 a month phone bill then dont expect any help from your sat TV provider!!! Did i mention they also want to control what you watch and will beam hardcore porn directly to your lounge for anyone in the family to watch...:hiya:
     
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    I like the idea of getting a better signal for BBC/ITV etc. the Sky signal is poor and since I am going for a Sony 32dx150 with in-built tuner it sounds a clear win.

    Never knew there was so much anti-Sky/capitalism floating around these rooms. I for one think that Sky is fantastic. Just think of the improvement in service over the last 10 years. Yes you have to pay for it, yes you have to have a black box but come on - do you really begrudge a company which has brought a generation out of having the gleeful choice of watching either Prisoner Cell Block H and teletext after 10pm? Think of where we were - Sky have provided a cracking service to the UK viewing population. Even on recent trips to America have reminded me of how simple, efficient and more choiceful the Sky package is. Like any major success you eventually face the issue of overdomination and all the potential abuses of a monopoly (increasing fees etc). Maybe Freeview is good for that very reason but I can't beat Sky up for making the public so happy that we want to pay them lots of money.

    and no, I don't work for Sky...
     
  15. Bernard Barnett

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    I have Freeview because I like anamorphic widescreen transmitted by people who care about quality.
     
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    Er....>how can this happen?
     
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    Last night......ITV 1 Man U v Rangers (widescreen):smashin: and ITV 2 Chelsea v Lazio on 8ft widescreen! Looking forward to England v Wales on w/e. Big up for free view
    :clap: :clap: :clap:
    Yeah we had loads more sport before sky priced others out of the marked and then charged people for the privilege of having it back again:mad:

    Cheers

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  18. Mylo

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    Without Freeview my Dad would miss out on half the football and rugby. Unlike me he does not want to pay over £400 a year to sky on top of the ridiculous TV licence fee.

    What is so good on Sky after 10pm? Not much in my opinion.
     
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    I watch Freeview via Nebula Electronics DigiTV PC card, projected to 80"x60" screen.

    The best TV picture I ever had.

    My brother tried the same with Hauppauge DVB-S card and given up after realising that he (edit) CANNOT get CAM to work with Sky.
     
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    One huge plus for FV over any other UK DTTV system is this - the kit is not designed/knobbled/defeatured by the broadcasters.

    All the design is left to the manufacturers rather than SKy or cablecos.

    So we can have IDTVs, component devices, subscription free PVRs and multiple tuners with no remote confusion.
     
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    Yet those same people who finance and control DTT have direct control of their Digital Satellite channels, so why is there a difference?
     
  22. hornydragon

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    Where the hell did he get a Sky CAM from????
     
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    It seems that GerdanJ has such a 'down' on freeview (or is it an up on $ky) that he/she has seen fit to start a virtually identical thread in the TV's forum.

    Curious, that!
     
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    although I would like it to seme very sinister it was simply noted that I had posted a freeview note on the wrong forum. sorry I can't be more Blaire-like in my motives.
     
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    They don't control the means of transmission. I suspect there's enough residual concern for quality in the engineers who man the terrestrial transmitters to ensure that the best possible picture is sent out.
     
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    It seems these people are happy to pay an anonymous Japanese technology company lots of money for TV,s and other equipment and not sky for a subscription - The japanese company keeps all its money for itself, whereas Sky atleast do put money back into the UK economy via taxes and also multiple millions for Football - 60 million for rugby Super League, 8 milion for Rugby Union heineken cup etc - poor old Mr Murdoch does get some stick even tho he is only the major shareholder of a company which in turn has a 35% stake in BSkyB ! ??
     
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    Yeh but buying a one off box of tricks such as a TV or a CD player or any other, reminds me of Christmas. But paying a monthly subscription year in year out, reminds me of Gas Bills and Electricity Bills and Council Tax etc...etc and bills wind me up!:suicide: :D

    Croc
     
  28. hornydragon

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    Of course Sony dont have a CRT plant in south wales and dont employ any staff in the UK!!! And of course Mr murdoch doesnt spend millions on US import and makes so much original progrmming in the UK and of course his football rigths has not sent any clubs to the wall financially and has of course improved fans enjoyment of the game no end!!!!
     
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    Well said Horny.:smashin:
     
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    And a 30 year-old son who has this week been appointed Chief Executive of BSkyB from a shortlist of one.
     

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