Probably it makes sense to some. Just not in the context of a hi-fi related forum.Well, it does make sense, doesn't it?
(not sure if you were being sarcastic or not)
I'm sure you didn't mean to say that.
To me, this is fascistic technology:Regarding the remark about “so what annoys me is there is fascistic technology available yet the formats we can access our music on either degrades or not as good as it could be”.
Yes I did mean this but it’s based on a conversation I had with a record representative many years ago (I think DAT had just been released) and I said if the companies put the music on these it will kill off records and he said that’s not going to happen formats that degrade, get broken are fine as they have to be replaced. No company is going to fully back a format that is as the studio recording and only bought once.
I don't buy the idea that at any point in time a "perfect", "error-free" master exists and evil record companies then take it, compress it, manipulate it and create something of lower quality that they are willing to hand out to us lowly customers. This simply is not happening.let’s face it a digital download taken from the masters not compressed and a very good sample rate regardless how they manage to deliver / sell it to us would be fantastic. The tech is there but we can’t purchases it, so nothing has changed even though technology has come a very long way since.
Here is (still) the simple truth: If you want a pre-amp with tone controls then go ahead and buy one. That's more than OK with me. But don't tell those who want pre-amps without tone controls that those devices must not be produced.No, I was not saying only my point of view matters and why would I there would be no point in a debate, I think it’s been a fairly good debate overall I was already aware of most reasons not to have tone controls but there have been a few good reasons put forward as to why not to have them was better that I did not know.
So what hasn’t changed (for me personally) is I feel pre-amps should have them but with a bypass switch without fail so it can be used without and only switched on if required.
This is by far the worst argument for tone controls (even sophisticated tone controls, not the usual bullsh*t tone controls) ever. Really. Didn't anybody read what @GreyPoppy had to say about it?One of the reasons I say this is peoples hearing changes for a lot of us as you get older and that’s a fact so this way you don’t have to by a new amp. And yes I do get your point that tone controls do no good.
If a person with somehow degraded hearing is listening to a live music event, this person will enjoy it just the way it is with all imperfections caused by their hearing loss. If the loss is starting to impact your enjoyment of live music there is one and only one fix: Get a proper (read: good and expensive) hearing aid. It will work on live music as well as on recorded music and offer additional benefits. Don't buy new speakers or a new amp, don't think about tone controls, go see your hearing aid acoustician!I never ask the violins at a concert to turn it up because my hearing’s a bit dull that day, and I never complain if concert hall X is boomier or drier than concert hall Y.
No question about that.But most of all as others have said who cares as long as you enjoy the music as that’s what it all about, and it is. Music is about making you feel good regardless of the system, he won’t be reading this but one of my brothers is what I call tone deaf as he cannot tell a good system apart from a portable radio, but he says as long as there is music coming that it for me.
To me the answer is trivial. And no, tone controls are do not enable you to make them sound the same.The one thing that no one has answered, if you listen to two or more top end systems same tracks why do they sound different when it’s supposed to be as intended / as it should be.
Imagine if you did and enjoyed what you heard even more !!?? :OThe Luxman has lovely milled tone controls, but confess I have only ever touched them with a microfibre duster! LineStraight in Luxman speak has been engaged from new. Previous Marantz pm14 the same. Perhaps I should give them a try. ...
let’s face it a digital download taken from the masters not compressed and a very good sample rate regardless how they manage to deliver / sell it to us would be fantastic.
Hi,Imagine if you did and enjoyed what you heard even more !!?? :O