Wondered what you guys thought about alternatives to the sky box. People seem to really obsess about this, as if its the only option (which doesn't exist yet!). (1) I watch European satellite alot, and the sky box is naff compared to the generic boxes you can currently get, and that will be available shortly for Europe satellite. I will probably be getting a DreamBox 8000 or ReelMedia which has component and un-encrypted DVI out. In addition, with a dragon CAM and/or internal emulators these boxes can show UK sky (with a valid viewing card inserted, of course). Hopefully these boxes and hackers will keep up with the sky launch date. But I certainly will be not restricted on what I watch, in what format, all because we have an unfortunate monopolistic satellite situation in this country. Note that there are already 2 HDTV channels from hotbird, and a number of testing channels, including premiere. And they can all be picked up today from blighty using an Inverto or QualiTV, box. (2) Playstation 3 will play HDTV films out of the box (new type of DVD called blueray). The playstation 2 is often credited with starting the consumer DVD revolution, perhaps number 3 will do this too. (3) My Nvidia geforce card has HDTV via DVI or Component out (I think new ATIs do as well). There are some amazing samples of HDTV WMVs downloadable from MS, and online vendors are promising DRM salable/downloadable feature films soon. In summary, I think there is a current and future HDTV that exists outside Sky and we should cultivate it. Any of you guys know any other examples I might have missed ?