Discussion in 'Televisions' started by Jperf, Oct 20, 2005.
Hi all in the title
Thanks in advance for me and the others future owners of this beast
I'll try and get some posted later tonight after my wifes gone to bed.
OK thanks in advance
Firstly my photographic skills are not good and my camera is even worse but I think you will get the picture.
I've read on another thread that some DLP sets were struggling with Ch4 Lost this week. Well on the Sony it looked awesome with no colour banding, blocking or pixelation.
Here's a couple of pics.
A few shots of XMen 2.
Still on 575i until the Denon 1920 arrives.
The pictures look very good
Definitely going to try and track down a 42" this weekend to audition. Also have a Denon 2910 to hook up via HDMI
Nice pics, mate
Out of interest, what is your normal viewing distance?
How does the TV cope in daylight?
Just looked at how the pictures look. They were taken in the dark, no flash, at 2meg and then downscaled to an 800X600 jpg.
They don't show the Sony's ability to produce a deep rich almost 3D image especially with strong colours.
I've spent most of today looking at TV's again with my parents, with a deep strong image the 3LCD technology is better than DLP in my opinion.
DLP does have the edge when it comes to extracting detail from dark scenes.
As ever you decide.
My mum decided she wanted a KDFE42A12U but my Dad stood his ground and ordered the 50" version.
The didn't like the boxy design of the Samsung 6's and the 7 was too wide.
The Sagem 50 was also ruled to to its strange speaker like base.
Well that's Mum's for your.
I can tell you exactly as we've been measuring up all day to see if a 50" would be OK at my parents.
Depending on which seat you chose the distance is betwwen 8ft and 12ft.
Even at 50% contrast levels the TV is fine in daylight. The screen does pick up reflections though.
great pictures lee ,dvd with hdmi looks pretty good i tried it a few weeks ago,as so does HD,i would say hidef stuff looked better on that set than the 50" sony £5500 plasma in my shop
When I ordered mine they had the £5799 50" Plasma at the side of a KDFE50A12U, both were running the same high def images.
The Plasma looked a little brighter but that's the only difference I could tell.
Lee could you please tell us wether the screen is made of glass or not??
I have KF42SX200 which i am going to pass onto my parents if the KDFE50A12 is as good as it looks?
The one thing I like about my 42 is the glass screen, it makes it seem more TV like.
I used to have a cheap Samsung CRT rear projection and that had a really plastic screen that flapped when you pressed it which always felt tacky.
By the way it might be a really hard plastic rather then glass but it gives the impression of it being a proper glass screen if you get what I mean?
The main problem up to now is the only place with stock is John Lewis and its nearly £1400 Still it does have a 5 year guarantee.
Many thanks. Paul.
i thought the plasma was a bit more grainy but the shocking thing is its £4k more the picture isnt certainly worth £4k more
Chhers for the pictures, take as many as you can want
Maybe games consoles if you ahve any, or films with very dark scences etc.
No picture taken "off-screen" I have ever seen published on the forums can come close to giving any idea of what any set is like "in the flesh".
First of all they are by their very nature softened and under or over exposed to a certain extent, screen "flicker" (even on freeze frame) is captured by the camera thus adding its own degradation to the image, then the file sizes are drastically compressed in order to upload them to this site, with the end result a none-too accurate pic about one hundredth the size of the actual screen.
No picture of this type that I have seen has ever conveyed an image that I would consider acceptable quality from a TV, be it plasma, DLP, LCD or front-pro. Not the fault of the sets, but the result of the inability of a photo to convey the true image. This is why no manufacturer ever tries to show a real on-screen pic in their product adverts.
The screen is plastic but it is quite solid.
Hello all I'm new to this site and and the world of hd tv in general.
I have just ordered my KDFE50A12 and it's comming on tuseday .
What does everyone think of this model, is it easy to instal and how old is this model I know I should have asked this in store but I was overwhelmed
The Sony KDFE50A12 is a new model, only been out a few weeks.
It is very simple to setup and has full auto install.
Have a look at these two threads.
Thank a lot for your pictures Lee !
I would like to know where the VGA input is located ... do you think it's possible to make some pictures of the back of the TV ?
OMG CAN'T WAIT
The VGA input is located on the side. I'll get some pics up later.
Thanks Lee, I have ordered one from John Lewis. I just hope it doesn't take them too long to get back in touch to arrange a delivery date.
I meant to say earlier that the KF42SX200 screen I have is actually made of plastic but appears like a piece of glass.
Where did you order from to get delivery for Tuesday?
I ordered from John Lewis last night but haven't heard anything yet. Hoping they ring us soon to arrange a date?
From looking at the specs/physical appearance and the model number it appears our A12 is the UK version of the US A10. There is a 150 page thread on this TV on the avsforum : http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=562185
Can anyone confirm this? I found the manual for the A10 which is nice as I couldn't find one for the A12.
we ordered from the sony centre in newport
In Finland we have the same set but with the model A11, maybe something to do with different type of tuners required in different European countries (you britons like to go your own way usually ). The same A11 model is being sold in Germany as well.
I went to Comet today and they had the sony with the sagem and samsung on either side and the demo was hi def, the sony won for me there doing no favours to the other sets given the price. The missus is in agrement (bloody hell!) and it looks like were getting one from John Lewis for £1395 with a 5 year warrenty but ive not finnished shopping arond yet...cant wait..Battle star galactica in hi def ohhhhh yes P.S. will be taking my Denon A11 to comet on monday for a demo with hdmi will let all know how it looks later that day.
Arggghh It's not a good news for my HTPC !!!
Thank you in advance Lee !
(if you can shot all the inputs, I would be very happy ...)
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