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whisperflow hushbox or any other suggestions!

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by The Spaniard, Sep 13, 2001.

  1. The Spaniard

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    I have recently finished my installation and whilst I am very pleased with the overall result and the picture produced by the Sonyvw10ht ( without even tampering with the settings - I tend to prefer the custom 2 set up) I am ready to rip my head off with the noise produced by the projector....so much so that half way through trying to watch 'traffic', I turned the f...ing thing off and watched the rest on my tv. Not really what you want to be doing after deliberating for over twelve months and then spending a whole ruck of money on the set up!

    My projector is ceiling mounted directly above my seating position about 4-5ft away from my ears!!

    I am ready for a breakdown and would be so grateful if any one knows any way I can reduce the noise and in particular if any one has any experience of the whisperflow hushbox.(www.whisperflow.com) Keep in mind that the projector is ceiling mounted in my living room and the wife is already ready to kill me...

    Thanks

    Gary
     
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    And you have what is regarded as one of the most quiet projectors available. I can see me having problems too.

    Jeff
     
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    Are you running it with "Cinema Black" off? ie full power?.<br />The reason i ask is my Vw10ht was almost silent in "Cinema mode". Having said that the ceiling is acoustic tiles, so maybe they where absorbing some of the sound.<br />In full power mode, it was about the same as a normal PC etc.<br />How did you go on with dead pixels, did you get a good one in the end?.<br />Lets see some pics!
     
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    Hi Paul, no I am running it with cinema black on and the noise is still ridiculous. Turn it onto full power and the f...ing thing sounds as if it is ready to take off. It is really ****ing me off beyond belief and any help or advice anyone can give would be really appreciated
     
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    It's an LCD projector. Almost all the reviews and common discussion I have experienced about LCDs is that their characteristics include naff black levels, dead pixels, limited bulb life, dust issues and unbearably loud fans.<br />Can't understand why anyone would buy them to be honest, because their foibles far outweigh the advantage of being compact and portable.<br />Maybe someone will give you a decent trade-in price on a used CRT?<br />My (huge with big fan) 1209 is 4-5 feet above my head and it doesn't bother me at all.<br />I have heard that if you hang a sheet of material such as foam or polystyrene below the projector - say with 4 lengths of fishing line, the situation can be much improved. Got to be worth a try.<br />If this works or you do build a 'hush box' please post your results in the DIY forum.
     
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    Stuart, who's been watching Blue Peter! <img src="graemlins/evil.gif" border="0" alt="[Evil]" /> <br />I guess you don't like LCD! but have you seen a VW10ht well set up with grey screen?. I agree the vw10ht doesn't have velvet blacks, but in all other respects gives a fantastic picture. Gary "HAD" to make a compromise because of LWAF!. I have a dedicated room so size isn't really a issue. I want those velvet blacks, and i'm prepaired for a metro sized monster hung on the ceiling. Others don't have this luxury. Plus i think the new Sharp9000(DLP) may change a few minds. I've not even bought my new CRT and are faced with a host of pitfalls...<br />Will have to be second hand. Then other things ie Burnt tubes/ceiling braces/crash helmets(low ceiling!)/COST!/if it will do VGA/SVGA/XVGA etc scalers/TAC lens or HD/poor corner focus/fan noise/lack of some normal inputs(component etc)....the lists goes on. Then there is the installation/setup hassle(plus the charge for this)!.<br /> I agree if i get all these things right i will end up with a superb picture, but not for the price of most "NEW" LCD/DLPs.<br />Gary, the VW10ht should be fairly quiet ie not enough for you to switch off during a film etc.<br />Mind you with the volume i watch films at, i would be lucky to hear the house alarm!. <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <br />I'm wondering if yours has a faulty fan. How many hours have you used it for?. I seem to remember mine being louder when it was brand new.<br />Try tilting the unit(forget about the picture for now). This is to see if the "Pitch" of the noise changes. I've noticed with LCD/DLP it's the higher pitched fan that "seems" louder.<br />What ceiling mount are you using?.

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    Gary,

    The sound from a VPL10 is exceptionally quiet for an LCD when in "black" mode. If it's that annoying I think there may be something wrong somewhere.

    If it is working though then perhaps a hush box may be in order. Good air circulation is required woth one of these to stop it cooking by re-cycling hot air through itself. You should also consider the addition of some sound absorbtion material inside to stop any noise escaping. Ku-Stone, as used in Linn loudspeakers is great for this purpose. We have sheets of it we cut up and use as required.

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    Gary, moving from a small dlp which had the fan output of a 747 the sony sounds very very quiet to me. I think it may well be your old age effecting your ears. You are going to hear something, like a fan on a pc, some pc fans can go clunky for no reason so it might be worth getting it replaced.

    Mike
     
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    Before we get into the age old battle of crt versus the world can I just wallow in self pity a little longer. Most of you know that me and metric got our sonys from Belgium and that I have already sent two units back because of falty pixels. I dont really want the hassle of another lengthy return and the shipping cant do a great deal for the unit either...last time the package was opened at brussels and they failed to put the polystyrene back in the box! Is it easy to open up and have a look at the fan...OR would you have a word with Sony U.K.

    Metric, why dont you come and have a listen and tell me what you think? As you know, I am now getting on a bit and all this stress is terrible for the ticker!
     
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    Stuart, i've just had a quick look at your Home Cinema. You have been busy!, it looks excellent!.<br />The last time i looked it was still at the plastering stage. I didn't realise it was you who had had the "driveway" problem etc.<br />Well my hat is off to you (and your very helpful friends and family!).<br />I was just wondering what had happened to this project.<br />TOP JOB!!!
     
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    .................................<br />........I SEE DEAD PIXELS........<br />Or at least I used to before I upgraded to CRT almost two years ago. <br />Notice the word upgrade.

    I had a Sony 900 something or other LCD which I put in my suitcase while on a trip to Hong Kong.<br />I set it up (plonked it on a shelf) thinking it was the dogs goolies for the first few weeks until I noticed...dead pixels, chicken wire like image, and worst of all, constantly accumulating dust which was in the optical path hence showed up on the image as annoying blobs.

    Around 9 months after my 'installation' of this light bulbed vacuum cleaner the R1 Fight Club dvd arrived.<br />I think I got half way through the DVD before I shut the thing down in disgust. Due to the very dark nature of the vast majority of this movie, I honestly could not see much of the detail (that I assumed and knew was there. Talk about torture test for blacks. I later watched the DVD again through my very well set up Sony RPTV (7" CRT tubes), much much better thank you.

    A few weeks later on another visit to Hong Kong I visited a fellow AVS member Li-On.<br />This guy had an old (base model) Barco 701 in his bedroom (10x8 ft) with a HTPC front end.<br />I had seen CRT's at many a show and in a few dealer demo rooms (mainly Seleco's) but had not as yet seen an image like this. It was incredible.

    Like Stuart I have also been lucky enough to build a dedicated room. However finding a Barco 808s with less than 300 hours on the clock for the princely sum of 2000 pounds was probably the pinnacle of my lucky streak.

    I can understand full well why Stuart gets excited every time CRT is mentioned.<br />I, like him have been fortunate enough to live with a good CRT projector for some time now and I can tell you please please please stop spending your money on single lense devices.

    Yes they are getting better, the contrast ratio's have improved, we now have sealed optical units in some to prevent dust build up, there are also some quieter ones....But.....the old war horse CRT is still on another planet in terms of shear and absolute picture quality.

    Maybe in years to come CRT will be overtaken, but for the next few years anyway, nothing even comes close.

    Eric

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    Paul, The sony has done 20 hours or so and altering the angle doesn't make any difference to the noise. I need to know how I can ascertain whether the fan or whatever is faulty before I either look at hush boxes or whatever..giving up and flogging the lot is looking favourite at the moment..OR return the unit to sony for repair or replacement. I listen at high volumes myself normally but even at higher than I would prefer you can still hear the fan, obviously more during the normal conversation or quiet scenes. As for watching football, golf, tennis or snooker, etc you can forget it. Is there an easy way to compare the sound produced, some one has mentioned that the sound should compare to that of a lap top fan? In my case around a 1000 or so varios may get close!

    I am really fed up and do not want to show any body my set up even though all my mates know that it is finished and have had to put up with me anmd this bloody project for the last 12 months or so....Please help!
     
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    cheers for padding the thread guys with crt vs lcd crap, evidently there is a market for both.

    Sorry gary, im adding more padding, ill speak to you in the week about hooking up.
     
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    Thanks Guys but I am sending the unit once again back to Sony in Belgium for them to have a look at. I spoke to them about the possibility of upgrading to the 11ht but they said that they still have thousands of 10hts to still get rid of (CHARMING!!) and that Sony would not release the 11ht until they had ...." cleared the shelves "

    I will let you all know how I get on!
     
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    dont give up gary, got my denon 2800 today, looks v nice with the 10ht, 3802 on thursday, just gotta build the room
     

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