Which TV has the best 4:3 stretch mode?

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  1. jedi55

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    Hi,
    Could someone please tell me which TV has the best 4:3 stretch mode, SONY KDL32V2500 or Toshiba 32C3030D?
    I went to Curry's to find out for myself, but they refused to adjust the TVs.

    Thanks
     
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    I would said "listen mate, I am about to drop some cash on a TV and you are refusing me service, I am not spending the cash here, I will go elsewhere, where I can get some service."

    I hate lazy sales people. The Toshiba's have been getting some stick for their SD performance, can you elaborate on the details of what 4:3 source you will be using?
     
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    Can't help with your question but i agree with Blackbolt's point about sales staff, tell them they have just lost a sale and go to Comet or other shop to try one out.
     
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    Hi,
    I'm planning on using the TV for DVD, PS2 and PC not much Freeview. I hate Curry's, but they were close by and I don't drive.
    I did not intend to buy a TV from them. I just wanted to see which TV was the least distorted.
     
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    No TVs will look good with a 4:3 picture stretched to 16:9.

    I just don't understand why people insist on sacrificing picture quality just because the whole screen area has to be filled. :confused:
     
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    I find the Pillar box distracting. Besides, some TVs are very good at stretching the image. My old sony Trinitron had an excellent "Smart" mode.
    I'm just curious if the current Sony TVs have the same excellent "Smart" mode.
     
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    Stretching 4:3 to 16:9, and Smart mode are completely different things.
     
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    Exactly, thats why I'm asking. I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear before. Different TVs have different names for their 4:3 stretch mode.
    All I know is that my Panasonic plasma didn't have one, thats why I had to sell it. 100% of my games and 70% of my DVDs are 4:3, burn-in city for a plasma
     
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    But the two tvs you quoted are LCD's.
     
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    Toshiba has "Super Live 1" for stretching 4:3 to full screen
    and "Super Live 2" for stretching side panel format (on some TV broadcast).

    Sony has "Smart" for stretching 4:3 to full screen.

    You can go to Toshiba and Sony websites and downloads their user manuals to see these features.
    http://www.home-entertainment.toshiba.co.uk/
    http://www.sony.co.uk


    ....

    _

    Edit:
    Maybe on plasma you didn't like those black-bars because of screen-burn, but on LCD there is no such thing as screen-burn, and the run-in to avoid cells retention is very short (and it's debatable).
     
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    I was hoping a few people on this forum would tell me which LCD has the best stretch mode.
    I have no way of seeing for myself, because of Curry's unhelpfulness.
     
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    But that's purely subjective, so no we can't. You either lose some of the image or stretch some of the image. Depends on what you want it to do.
     
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    Comet are just as useless. My local Comet had about 50% of its LCD's on display connected by RF only running a Comet "future of TV " demo from I dont know what. Using the remote on a Tosh 37 C3030D which was available for customer use I was able to tune analogue terrestrial C1-C4 but no C5. Switching to DVB-T (Freeview) no multiplexes were found!

    This Comet store is on the highest piece of ground anywhere around here and has line of sight to the local TX some 20 miles away.

    I live in the valley but apart from occasional problems from one multiplex have no problem with freeview reception.

    I told the salesmanthat with such abyssmal demo facilities how the h*** did he hope to sell me £700+ of gear!!!
     
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    I had Toshiba 42WLT66, which had the same modes as C3030D. And now I have Sony KDL-40V2500 so I can compare both from their performance.

    In stretching modes Toshiba has more features because Sony doesn't have some modes on Toshiba i.e. Exact scan, Super Live 2, Cinema 2, Subtitle.

    The modes on Sony and Toshiba that are the same:
    Smart = Super Live 1
    4:3 = 4:3
    Wide = Wide
    Zoom = Cinema 1
    14:9 = 14:9
    and setting for PC

    For stretching 4:3 to full screen they are the same,
    i.e. Sony "Smart" mode = Toshiba "Super Live 1" mode

    And this is applicable to 32" as well.


    Notes:
    In term of picture quality my (ex) WLT66 is better.
     
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    Thank you so much rondha. Thats just what I needed to hear. I've heard some good things about the Toshiba on www.ntsc-uk.com, but I was not sure.
     

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