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Question Which TV for football?

Discussion in 'Which TV Should I Buy?' started by Television, Oct 5, 2017.


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    1. Samsung UE49MU6472

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    5. LG 49SJ810V

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    1. Television

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      Hello! I'm planning on buying a TV and while I've gone through lots of reviews and guides that I hoped would have helped me make the right choices, I still don't know what I need to take into consideration.

      Basically I just want to enjoy watching football. The lady of the house wants to watch Netflix and movies. Maybe in the future I might get back into playing PES or FIFA, but right now that's not really a factor. The budget has been set at 800€ and the size should be between 43 and 55".

      Here are the models I've been looking at:

      Samsung UE49MU6472
      Samsung UE50MU6172
      Samsung UE50KU6075XXE
      LG 49UJ6307
      LG 49SJ810V
      Philips 55PUT6201/12
      Sony KD-43XD8305

      Which of these do you think would be the best one and why? Of course you are free to make other suggestions as well.

      Thanks!
       
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      First of all I would check your Broadband, I very recently found out that mine (shockingly) wasn't good enough.
       
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      The best of the cited TVs is, I.M.H.O., the LG 49SJ810V with its nativ 10 bit Nano Cell panel.
       
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      I'd avoid the LGs because of their IPS panels and LG also don't have a great reputation for motion handling which is important for football. I don't know how much it is your country but I'd have a look at the 55" Sony XE70.
       
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      For football you may favour getting a TV with a 120hz panel vs one with a 60hz one, but I would demo both to see if you find motion on a 60hz panel acceptable.

      Only tv's in your list that use 120hz panels are the LG 810v and Sony XD83.

      Beware though you will want to use the extra motion options on the TVs themselves to see a difference.
      Guide: Motion explanation and Best Buys for motion 2017 Edition
       
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      Thanks! I did find Sony KD-55XE7096 that is not too far out from my original price range. It's got 50HZ panel though. Wouldn't that be a problem or does it really matter that much? Then there's
      Sony KD55XE8505BAEP with 100 Hz VA panel.

      It's the same thing with Samsung: it's impossible to find one with 100Hz panel that fits my price range, even if I add another 100 or so € in to my budget.

      I managed to find Philips 43PUS6501 that has 100 Hz panel. It also has back led, if that makes any difference.
       
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      You are looking at such a large maraid of sizes it doesn't really make it easy finding the best TV for you. If you can get a 55" max, get that.

      You mentioned the XE85 Sony series, that would be a good option if you can afford it.

      The Philips 6501 is a good bet, but why 43"? You really want the biggest tv you can get, especially with UHD.

      But maybe you are happy with a 60hz panel? Only you can answer that by demoing a 60hz model yourself. The only advantage to a 120hz panel is if you enable extra settings in the TVs menu to enhance motion.

      Did you read what I wrote about it in my link above?

      Go demo some tv's and tell us what you think of motion on a 60hz panel.
       
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      Yes, I did read it. I found it to be informative, so thanks! I do need to go see what the picture looks to me. I'm hoping I can go check some out this weekend. I should be able to view the Sony XE85 55" in store. If I find the quality be convincing, then I might as well spend some extra. Then again I might end up waiting until Black Friday and see if some good deal comes up.

      I didn't find the Philips in bigger size.
       
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      The Philips is available in that size, its a 2016 model though so perhaps that is why.

      Do you need wide viewing angles?
       
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      Sure, but my local stores didn't seems to have it.

      I don't think I necessarily need wide viewing angles as it's mostly just one or two people watching from the same sofa.
       
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      You shouldn't need an IPS type panel then, go for a TV with a VA type one to get more contrast, better blacks and screen uniformity.

      If you want a 120hz panel or more options to enhance motion:

      55" only:

      Sony XE85 or higher.
      Samsung MU7000 or higher.
      Philips PUS7502 or higher.
      Hisense NU8700 or higher.
      Panasonic EX750 or higher.

      60hz panels:

      55" only:

      Sony XE70
      Hisense N6800
      Panasonic EX700

      Be warned about other sizes, for example the Samsung MU7000 at 49" uses only a 60hz panel and the Sony XE70 series at 43 and 49" uses an IPS type.
       
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      Thanks!!

      Aside from the Sony, the other ones are either not available or too far out of my price range.
      I did have a chance to view it yesterday in store. Unfortunately I didn't have the time to spend time to really get to know the product. Quite frankly the picture seemed a bit grainy to me, but I do realize that settings affect it a lot.

      I suppose I'll go buy the Sony today and see how I really feel about it in home setting.
       
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      @Television which Sony are you going for? PQ is heavily dependant on the source quality, even more so now with UHD. Depending on your distance and source having an UHD TV can be akin to a magnifying glass in front of the screen... a similar analogy would be zooming in close on a low resolution image on a computer.

      But usually, depending how close you view, anything HD and up (720p+) is good..UHD of course will be the best, but even then some UHD Blu-Rays aren't shot at UHD resolution.
       
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      Right, I think the sales man was saying the same thing about the rource when I was viewing some Philips model.

      I'll buy the Sony KDXE8505BAEP 55". Goes on sale tomorrow too.
       
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      So I bought the XE8505 yesterday and set it up just in time for football. The picture was nice and smooth for football on HD channel so I'm very happy about that. The white shirts seemed a bit too bright though, almost like they were glowing, but I suppose that can be fixed with settings and it didn't really bother me.

      I did notice a problem while checking out some other channels: when there was a movie or show on that had subtitles, the picture would get brighter when the subtitles appeared and then dimmer as they disappeared. Any idea how to fix this? Maybe this is a matter for some other topic though.
       
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      Sony X85E (XE85) review - FlatpanelsHD
      Sony X850E LED TV Calibration Settings

      You could use either of those settings, its not the same as getting your own tv professionally calibrated as they can differ panel to panel but it should be a start.

      As for the subtitles, its a limitation of an edge lit LCD. It would be the same for any model that is lit from the bottom of the screen. I guess it needs to raise the brightness for the subtitles and can't control the brightness of the rest of the picture because there is no form of local dimming. Even LCDs with local dimming struggle with making a balance between lighting the subtitles and keeping the picture around them dark...hopefully when you have copied some settings it should improve a little bit.
       
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      Actually turning off the adv. contrast enhancer seems to have solved the problem.

      And thanks! I'll go through those links and see if I can improve the picture quality. Although so far I'm quite happy with the picture now that the previously mentioned problem got solved.
       
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      Yeah you wanna have settings like that turned off, they usually harm the PQ more than benefit it.
       
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      If you do nothing else make sure you switch it from standard to cinema home or cinema pro.
       

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