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Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by gabs, Apr 2, 2004.

  1. gabs

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    I just recently bought some MA Radius speakers (3 x 180) + (2 x 90), and I went for the new REL Stampede.
    This was to replace my KEF KHT 2005.2 package.

    When I set it all up, the MA speakers were fantastic, but the Sub (when playing movies) didnt seem as full and large as the Kef sub, I phoned REL I tryed various settings and postions, but it still didnt come close to the sound of my old KEF PSW2010.

    I know the KEF PSW2010 is 250w (30Hz - 140Hz) and has a 10 inch drive unit compared the 100w Stampede (16Hz - 99Hz) which has only an 8 inch drive unit.

    Would this have anything to do in the difference of sound, even though the Stampede is more expensive than the KEF PSW2010 SUB.

    SevenOaks are willing to exchange the SUB.

    Can anyone give me some advice on which Sub would be suitable
     
  2. Daneel

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    Is that spec really correct? 16 Hz from the REL? What is that, +/- 15 dB? ;)

    I'm not sure how much the REL is but recently I was very impressed with the B&W 750, you might want to try one of their lesser subs.
     
  3. Smurfin

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    Doubt it, REL used to quote their sub figures +/- 6db...which is nonsense in real terms. 16hz? Doubt it will even get close...
     
  4. Ian J

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    All subwoofer manufacturers seem to quote their figures in different ways making comparisons meaningless. The size of the driver and the amp also isn't as relevant as you may think as they are a byproduct of the design.

    The interaction between subwoofer and room is greater than any other part of the audio chain and perhaps the REL Stampede isn't as good in your room as the KEF sub was.

    If you don't like it as much as the KEF sub and Sevenoaks are offering to exchange it, by all means take them up on their offer and try something else. Perhaps something from the MJ Acoustics range might work better in your room.
     
  5. gabs

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    Thanks Ian

    All this is new to me, I read that the REL ST series leans itself more towards music where as the Q series is more HT orientated, if so would it be worth investing in a Q series, if so could you recommend any worth trying.

    The MJ Acoustics sounds very intresting, which of the following do you think maybe more suitable the MJ ACOUSTICS REFERENCE 1 MK II or the REFERENCE 150, have you any thoughts on the B&W ASW675

    Thanks for your quick reply

    Regards Gabs
     
  6. Ian J

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    In my opinion there are many subs that are better than the REL Q range at their price bands and although it is my personal opinion only, I would look elsewhere.

    I haven't heard some of the newer models in the MJ range but no doubt the crustyloafer will be along at some stage and he not only sells them but he owns them as well.

    The B&W ASW675 is an excellent sub that both gonzo and rags speak highly of although both have since moved on to more powerful (and expensive) subwoofers.

    Having just read the current edition of Home Cinema Choice another one worth thinking about is the slightly larger Mordaunt-Short MS909W at about £500. HCC rated it highly and I heard it performing at the Bristol Show and was also impressed.
     
  7. GJC

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    How old are Rels Q range of subs now!

    Isnt it about time we had some new models? With better drivers/amplification.....?

    I think the Q400 is getting on for 4 yrs now.
     
  8. gabs

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    Thanks for all your advice

    I think I have narrowed it down to either:

    B&W 675 or the MJ Reference 1 MKII,

    Could anyone give me some feedback on these two Subs
     
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    hi gabs,

    I got some feedback on the ASW675 in a thread I started a while back which you can find here.

    I originally couldnt decide between the REL Q200 or one of the B&W subs but with some advice from forum members and a couple more days of research I ended up going for an SVS cylinder.

    Hope this helps

    - Kev
     
  10. Crustyloafer

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    I have the MJ Acoustics Ref 1 Mk1 subwoofer and can highly recommend it. Very musical and goes very low. Not the quickest sounding sub around but very easy to listen to.
     
  11. Kazman

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    If you like the KEF sub, why not go for the slightly bigger brother of the 2010? I got hold of a KEF PSW2500 for a bargain £239 from Technosound (after they price matched with PRC Direct).

    I would strongly suggest looking at the Mordaunt Short MS909W, I too heard it at the recent Bristol show, and I would have bought one if I found one in time, unfortunately I found it difficult to find anybody with them in stock :(. Not dissappointed with the KEF PSW2500 at all though, lovely piece of kit.
     
  12. gabs

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    Thanks Kazaman

    I just recieved a call from the shop saying upto 3 weeks for the MS909,
    My new denon 3805 arrived today, I cant wait 3 weeks, so im going for the B&W 675, is this as good sounding as the MS 909


    Regards

    Gabs
     
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    I'm pretty sure you won't be dissappointed by the 675.
     
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    Hi Gabs
    Buy with confidence the asw675 is a great little sub you won't be dissapointed.
    Cheers Gonzo.
     
  15. gabs

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    Thanks guys

    Ill be picking it up today:thumbsup:
     
  16. Kazman

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    Yeah, great Sub, can't go wrong with that one. How much did you get it for?
     
  17. gabs

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    I got it for knocked down from £650 to £580 from Audio excellence, well if you dont ask you dont get.


    Cheers

    Gabs

    :laugh:
     
  18. Kazman

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    That is a very good price, no-body would knock it down when I asked around (gits :) ).

    Let us know what you think once you have everything set up :)
     

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