Which studio will be next...

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  1. soup nazi

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    ...to join warners and others and go dual format?

    fox,universal,disney.

    or give up on a format?
     
  2. Rasczak

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    I wouldn't expect anyone to change their stance just yet...certainly Fox, Universal and Sony are too entrenched to change anytime soon. Lionsgate, Studio Canal and BV/Disney are all candidates in the mid-long term - it won't be overnight though. Much more interesting (and hopefully immediate) are new entries into the 'war'.

    New Line should be the next big annoucement - we know they are going to support HD DVD, the question is will they also go 'dual' - and if they do will the support be equal or (as with Warner) second class service.

    Along with Warner HBO will likely also join the high def fray - again support for HD DVD is already confirmed, but they are expected to go dual.
     
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    I'll guess at any of these...

    - New Line/HBO
    - Weinstein
    - Magnolia
    - Brentwood Home Video
    - BCI
    - DVD International
    - Eagle Rock Entertainment
    - Concert Hot Spot
    - Image Entertainment
    - Interscope
    - Entertainment In Video
    - Goldhil Home Media
    - HDNet
    - Razor Digital Entertainment
    - Rhino Entertainment
    - Discovery Channel
    - Tartan Video
    - MTI Home Video
    - Studio Canal
    - 2Entertain/BBC
    - Pathe
    - Momentum Pictures
    - Manga Films
     
  4. Rasczak

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    For those who don't know the above are all the HD DVD exclusive studios(excluding the dual ones BadAss missed). As with all his posts BadAss is suggesting HD DVD is dying - despite the fact that the discs are outselling BD and the BD forum is a ghost town. :(
     
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    Honestly, New Line/HBO and Weinstein.
     
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    Disney/BV
     
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    Rasczak, soup nazi asked 'Which studio will be next......to join warners and others and go dual format?'

    My reply was to list all those Studios that support HD-DVD exclusively which are more likely to go dual format than Disney,Fox or Universal. Whats wrong with that?

    As for HD-DVD, I believe its days are numbered for sure. It all about market share and how Blu-Ray will eat into HD-DVD through 2007. Of couse the Pie gets bigger and bigger day by day.
     
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    LOL

    blu-ray 3+3 = 52

    hd-dvd 50 + 50 = 100

    and the winner is blu-ray ... wait no its actually hd-dvd :)
     
  9. Rasczak

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    Why more likely? As Lionsgate and BV/Disney are now working with Microsoft and VC1 I would say it's significantly more likely they will consider dual adoption...
     
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    havent disney already said that they are going to support both formats, but are starting out on Bluray?
     
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    They've said they will remain 'open minded' - which is pretty much sitting on the fence. I think they will probably see how things pan out - if dual format players arrive sooner rather than later (as is now looking quite likely) then I doubt they'll go dual - there would be no point. But if HD DVD maintains it's lead and dual format players are sluggish to arrive at a decent price point then I should imagine they will start HD DVD releases.
     
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    to what extent have Warners actually "gone" dual format - havent they been a supporter of both from day one?

    they appear to be ramping up their BD releases now because the BD50 scarcity issues have gone away. So its no change really.

    I wouldnt expect any major changes in 2007 - theres simply no economic justification. Although there are many more BD players in people's homes - largely due to the PS3, the amount of active users of both formats is still extremely low, so why bother changing from your path until things are a little clearer.
     
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    Wasn't it going to die when;

    BD was launched;
    When other players other than the poor old Samsung arrived;
    When BD50 was available;
    When VC1 was adopted;
    When the PS3 launched;
    When people unpacked their PS3 on Xmas day......

    With all that support and industry muscle what a fine job they've done.

    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

    AVI
     
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    Does this mean all future BD title releases will use the BD50 media ?

    AVI
     
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    Heh excellent points, dont forget all that studio support taht is helping them :rotfl: NOT
     
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    the ps3 is a massive failure for sony. They are hoping beyond hope that it will rise to the heavens and smite the unworthy 360 and Wii, but alas i see a far more likely scenario in the future for sony. The ps3 will fail to make the dent that sony thinks it will by virtue of the cost of the unit and the cost of the games. £50 for a game and £500 for the unit. Who are they trying to kid. I have a lot of disposable income but i fear that sony will have to lower their price by at least a third before i buy one.
     
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    presumably 1 more generation i.e 5-7yrs and both formats will be alomst dead. x360, ps3, PC, SkyHD all have the capability of showing HD content in one way or another the only difference will be non of them will be solid state and will be saved temporary to a HardDrive at a small rental or purchase cost. this saves lots of money on packaging and focuses on advertising yet the prices will remain almost the same so the studios get more money.

    to sum up 90% of the DVD buying population will have Broadband and its only a small matter of time before solidstate anything is avaliable vs downloadable content.

    for what its worth, sony are too controling and HD-DVD sounds like a format made for PC usage not state of the art dedicated players like the Blueray format although thats only my perception and both are most likely very good.

    i dont think there will be a massive consumer interest in these like SD DVD had, the only way the will get sales is if they phase in dual/multiple layer discs with SD release imo
     
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    people will indeed download but i still think that there will be massive call for discs. Remember the download limits on most isps wont allow alot of downloads.
     
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    PS3 has sold over a million, more than 700.000 in USA only and over 400.000 in Japan, how can you call that a failure? LOL :rotfl:

    Sure, Sony hasn't reached it's target by far, but it's till impressive though within the time it has been available.

    It's more expensive than a 360, do the math ;)
     
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    It is dying. :clap:
     
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    Just let me laugh at you for a while...hahahahaha....
     
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    Given the accuracy of your posts I think we can take that as a sure fire assumption of total failure for BluRay within 6 months...

    ...still waiting for you to explain how HD DVD studio support is 33% when all the following studios support it:
    - Warner
    - Universal
    - Paramount
    - New Line/HBO
    - Weinstein
    - Magnolia
    - Brentwood Home Video
    - BCI
    - DVD International
    - Eagle Rock Entertainment
    - Concert Hot Spot
    - Image Entertainment
    - Interscope
    - Entertainment In Video
    - Goldhil Home Media
    - HDNet
    - Razor Digital Entertainment
    - Rhino Entertainment
    - Discovery Channel
    - Tartan Video
    - MTI Home Video
    - Studio Canal
    - 2Entertain/BBC
    - Pathe
    - Momentum Pictures
    - Manga Films
    ...13 of them exclusively :smashin:
     
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    The ps3 is actually up for flop product of 2006 its in the top 3 for worst releases of 2006 :devil:

    i gave it a chance and bought one ,but as far as games go they are non exsistent at this moment in time,but to be fair the couple of days i did own it i played a few BD's on it and found it ok ,i mean mi3 was one of the discs i could compare to against my hd dvd version and it was a hec of alot softer and granier than the hd version but it was still a step up from dvd and you could see a diffrence but admitidly not as much as HD and it wasnt as bad as some make out and not as great as some make out,to me its somwhere in between and is not worthy of its price tag..! :lesson:
    but even so i can see why it will NOT sell well at its price point and the fact sony have added the BLU-RAY player to it, i mean most of the fans that wanted to upgrade from there ps2 do not want it as sony have forced upon them the bd player which obviously bumps the price up some what.

    Most playstation fans just want it for its games ability and they will loose probably into the millions of possible buyers due to the extra cost because of the bd player,to me or you we see it as a bonus,but the average gamer does not see it this way they are being done over if they buy it because they are paying way more than they have to because of the player hence why they (sony) will loose into a few millions of possible sales.

    people slate the add on that microsoft released but these are usally BD or sony fanboys,and they bang on about how the ps3 is better because the player is intergrated,but what they do not relise is that its the complete oposite,microsoft have done the right thing you can buy the 360 on its own and save a packet if your not intrested in HD films where as with the ps3 your easily paying £150 to £200 more for the bd playback which most gamers are not intrested in,but saying that the ps3 are on BD'S so thats that and out the window and has lost them many fans that they have bulit up over the years.END OF..!:lesson:
     
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    you can pick up all the games between £25-£35 online(games are region free)..............and i dont remember sony saying the console's gonna be £500
    how anyone can say ps3 has failed after 6weeks :suicide: :boring:
     
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    Not exclusive!

    Most of the above studios support Blu-ray already.

    Your list is not trustworthy.

    The official list and the only one that is true because under Sony Pictures alot of small studios are included like Columbia, Miramax for example.

    Blu-ray

    Paramount
    Warner Bros.
    Disney (Buena Vista)
    Fox
    Lionsgate
    MGM
    Sony Pictures

    HD-DVD


    Paramount
    Warner Bros.
    Universal Studios

    Total studios above: 7

    BD got marketshare: 100%

    HD-DVD marketshare: 42.8%
     
  26. Rasczak

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    I hope you can justify that statement...

    The BluRay list is drawn from the official BluRay Association site:

    - Lionsgate Entertainment
    - Paramount Pictures Corporation
    - Sony BMG Music Entertainment
    - Twentieth Century Fox
    - Walt Disney
    - Warner Bros
    - DVD International
    - Discovery Channel
    - Laser Pacific Media Corp.
    - MX Entertainment
    - Tartan Video
    - 1K Studios, LLC
    - Entertainment In Video

    The HD DVD list is drawn from the official HD DVD Promotion Group:
    - Warner
    - Universal
    - Paramount
    - New Line/HBO
    - Weinstein
    - Magnolia
    - Brentwood Home Video
    - BCI
    - DVD International
    - Eagle Rock Entertainment
    - Concert Hot Spot
    - Image Entertainment
    - Interscope
    - Entertainment In Video
    - Goldhil Home Media
    - HDNet
    - Razor Digital Entertainment
    - Rhino Entertainment
    - Discovery Channel
    - Tartan Video
    - MTI Home Video
    - Studio Canal
    - 2Entertain/BBC
    - Pathe
    - Momentum Pictures
    - Manga Films

    ...so what untrustworthy about those links? Would you also like to explain how BD has 100% market share when one of the biggest film and TV producers isn't backing the format.
     
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    You don't seem to get it.

    Studios supporting Blu-ray stand for 90% share of all movies out there.

    Why shall i care about HDnet? they don't even make real movies except bikini movies for old grumpy men.

    The support of 7 Hollywood majors studios (U.S. share 90% in 2005) has already been won. 5 studios (50%) on the inside are currently exclusive to Blu-ray Disc.

    That prooves my figures earlier.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray

    Read and enjoy. :rotfl:
     
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    so all of the companies that are releasing on hd-dvd account for only 10% of the total movies copyrighted? Hope you've got a big roll of toilet paper in your back pocket because of all the c*** your spouting.
     
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    :nono: That figure is totally incorrect and you know it.

    Sorry - what are you trying to prove by that link? The total mention of studio support I can see in that link is referring to HD DVD. I guess it shows BD fans are fixated by that format...
     
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    Once one of the bluray exclusive studios goes multi format i believe it will be the straw that breaks the camels back and the others except for sony controlled ones will follow..

    Bluray has everything to lose and not much to gain.. there are a million+ ps3's in circulation now we should be seeing 10000% increases in bluray disc sales i have no idea if this is happening, anyone know?

    how long will the studios stick with a format exclusively when they can make sales elsewhere:lease:
     

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