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Which Stereo Integrated or Power Amp?

Discussion in 'AV Pre-Amp/Processors & Power Amps' started by movie_fan, Feb 13, 2005.

  1. movie_fan

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    Hi,

    I'm looking for a Stereo Integrated or Power amp to use with my Marantz SR5300 A/V receiver. The speakers are Monitor Audio Bronze 4, cd player is NAD C521.

    Should I go for a integrated or just a power amp? And which brand? Marantz, Nad, or some other?

    Thanks!
     
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    Hi,
    Ive just got a new NAD C352 Integrated, and I think it's really good.
    I demo it against a Marantz 7200 Integrated and a Cambridge Integrated .
    The NAD controled the bass much better that both.

    Go demo.

    Just reading your post again, then maybe a power amp would be better for you, to go with your AVR.


    Good luck :smashin:
     
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    Do you have any suggestions for a suitable power amp?
     
  4. Harry T2

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    It depends on what you are trying to achieve?
     
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    Well, controlled bass and fine detail. Is a NAD suitable for this?
     
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    Hi,
    If your talking power amps, then I cant help, as I didnt demo any.

    but if your talikng Integrated amps, then I found the NAD C352 to be far better than the others I demo at the same price.

    The C352 controlled bass and was more life like than the other two I demo.
     
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    Well, actually I don't know which would be better to improve my stereo sound: a power or an integrated amp.
     
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    Well in that case i'd say integrated amp, as AV amps are poor at stereo, and a power amp would just boast what you have already.

    The only problem would be how do you switch the speakers from one amp to another. You would have to buy some sort of speaker switch box.

    I had the very same problem as you a few months ago,
    I bought a Arcam AVR 300, which is good for DVD and stereo.

    Tell us more about your system .
     
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    My vote would be for a dedicated stereo amp.

    Yes, the NAD is suitable. But there are lots of alternatives.
     
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    Well, here goes:

    AV receiver Marantz SR5300
    DVD Pioneer 575A
    CDP NAD 521
    Front: Monitor Audio B4
    Surround: Monitor Audio B1
    Center: Monitor Audio Bronze Center
    Subwoofer: Mission MS8

    Regarding the connection AV/Stereo, couldn't I use the SR5300's front speakers' pre-outs?

    Thanks a lot!!

    P.S: What do you think os the Marantz PM7200?
     
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    IMHO, the Marantz would be the better choice. And yes, you can use the pre-out into a line input on the other amp.
     
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    Hi, It was good when I demo it, it was my second fav amp, it controlled the bass just as well as the NAD, but I think the NAD sounded just alittle more life like.
    Also the 7200 is coming to the end of it's shop life, it will be replaced soon,
    As its been around a few years now, or so the man in my Hi-Fi shop told me
     
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    Hi
    thats fine if you don't mind having 2 amps switched on to play dvd's and 2 volume controls, also, the sound may sound different on the front left and right channels than the rear channels when playing back dvd's.
     
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    Would it not be ok, just to bi-amp the two?
     
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    movie_fan - I'm doing the same thing you're thinking about.

    I have a Yamaha E800 handling my DVD/VCR/Sky sources and a separate stereo pre-amp handling the CD/vinyl etc etc.

    Since my E800 doesn't power the front l/r channels this used to go to my stereo integrated amp, so I did have to have both the processor and stereo amp switched on for movies.

    I've just upgraded from the integrated stereo amp to pre/power. I bought a Rotel 5 channel power amp to beef up the E800 and wanted this to power the 2-channel sources as well. So I've bought a new stereo pre-amp since my integrated stereo amp did not have pre-outs. This does mean I have to have the processor, pre-amp and power amp on to watch DVDs, but it'll be worth it!

    One of the reasons I did this was because the centre/rears were getting powered completely differently to the fronts and made things a little unbalanced across the soundstage. I know I'm not helping this by my rather eclectic selection of speakers (but I'm thinking about changing that, looking at the Tannoy S8Cs being discussed on the speakers forum across the front 3) but even with all the controls in the Yamaha it's difficult to get the balance between centre and fronts right; I'm either losing dialogue because it's too quiet or not getting much width.
     
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    a set of musical fidelity x50 monoblocs would be just the thing for you. you can then have the front speakers behaving semi-actively and reduce the cable lengths for a better sound
     
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    I bought a second hand Naim Nait 3 recently for around £230 and have been absolutely blown away by it. An absolute bargain and a fantastic amp. It's had me digging out my CD collection again and playing everything!
     
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    Well, that's one of my concerns. I don't know what decision to make in order to improve stereo and, still, not introducing tonal inbalance across the left/right and centre speakers.

    Deanym was talking about the monoblocs. I think Marantz has them, too. Would these make the PM7200 unnecessary?
     
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    IMHO, you need to improve the pre-amp and use better quality amplification to get better bass control and fine detail.

    Choosing a stereo amp from the Marantz range should eliminate most of the tonal imbalance issues. And address the 2 main issues.

    A power amp or mono-blocs will only address the quality of the amplification.

    If you cannot live with the different amplification issues introduced by the stereo amp and AV amp driving the front speakers, then I think your money would be better spend on buying a better AV amp with superior stereo ability. Something like the Marantz SR7400. But there are lots of alternatives if this becomes an option.
     

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