Which Sony A7?

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  1. topgazza

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    Lots of overlapping in some of the features of the A7 range but for general photography including landscapes, street, macro and portrait which is the best all rounder ? If such a beast exists in this range. I include the original as well as the Mk2s in this. Although spoken of as the video king I think the 7s is perhaps the one, especially with its silent shutter ?
     
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    A7s if you don't need the pixels, A7r if you do, A7ii as the best current all rounder, A7 if you're skint, preorder the A7rii if you arent skint. Sums it up nicely.
     
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    Perfect......
     
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    Looking at all the various specs the silent shutter is a good feature to have. The 7s appeals because of that despite the low pixel sensor. It must be a firmware fix but in typical Sony fashion I don't expect it any day soon for the rest of the range and the A6000.
     
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    A7000 will be out soon, the A6000 will then be forgotten. If Sony dont advertise it as a key feature its HIGHLY unlikely itll come in a FW update. The A7S beats the A6000 to a pulp anyway (except for AF).
     
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    Not so sure about that from what I've seen. Main difference appears to be ones FF the other isn't... 7s has better low light...yawn and video... double yawn. No where near enough to justify the almost x 4 cost

    But A7000 will be interesting
     
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    Yes and with it being a low MP FF with high end FF lenses means it will beat it to a pulp. So youre considering it why exactly if you think the A6000 is that good?
     
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    I've had the A6000 long enough, well over a month now.... time for a change and I might as well go FF if I am going to invest in lenses and Sony only seems to be producing new FE lenses....

    However none of the current A7s float my boat..... noisy shutter is a deal killer for me on the A7ii. The A6000 is just about OK and as I shoot almost exclusively stills and not fast moving subjects having silent shutter doesn't present any issues for me. I think the A7000 may well be just a few tweaks to the A6000 and nothing that special although its interesting to see what they do
     
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    Why is a regular "noisy" shutter an issue though? Visit many churches?
     
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    Street togs like to have a less noisy shutter. More discrete. How does the noise compare to a normal DSLR? Or the A6000? My nikon and A6000 sound 'normal' and its not a issue. Even the 11fps machine gun is not an problem. ...
     
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    People can see your camera wether it has a shutter noise or not, the silent shutter isnt going to hide anything. Its not as if it sounds different to other camera in terms of DBs.
     
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    Generally agree with the A6000 sound... its not bad at all to be fair but the A7 is a lot noisier. It annoys me is all. Especially when Jim keeps wanting to borrow my silent RX100 for some, what he describes, as "discrete" shots. Something to do with photographing cars parked in laybys and people in cars or something :confused:
     
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    :) argument invalid.

    I take plenty of sneaky shots unbeknownst to the subject :D they don't notice me or my camera.
     
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    Perhaps or perhaps they don't actually care you're taking a picture.
     
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    Most people in the shower at night aren't aware of who's looking through the window of course.
     
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    On balance I think a silent shutter is well worth having..... its shouldn't be more than a firmware upgrade but I can see Sony not doing that as it would erode their "ability" to sell new models. And as twist said its not something they are likely to add anyway to existing cameras as a feature.
     
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    The A7RII has silent shutter :D just get it, it's the bestest

    you *can do slow shutter street photography hand held (*more easily)
     
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    I feel a kidney sale coming on.......
     
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    ...poor Kip :(
     
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    I know..... but he's such a doting, loyal little worker that he just goes along with it.......
     
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    ...they do have mechanical shutters.... take the lens off and look while pressing the shutter button... ;)
     
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    Indeed.... I was getting confused... briefly, with mirror slap....
     
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    ...not a mirror slap you need :p
     
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    I can dream....
     
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    Stop all this talk of A7's and silent shutters and get a real camera and stop messing about. The D750 is what you want ;)

    In all seriousness why do you want a silent shutter? I have it on the EM5-II and don't use it, it's just odd and I'm never sure whether it's taken a pic so have to use the playback button :laugh: I kind of understand it for sneaky street pics, but I don't recall seeing any street stuff from you?
     
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    I take quite a few but not usually with my TZ as its discrete. I'd certainly take a lot more if I remembered to take my camera with me and it was quiet

    I don't go out with the specific aim for street shots though
     
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    So if you don't go out specifically to shoot street (and need to be a silent ninja) why are you worrying about the noise of the shutter in any of the bodies? I shot with my friends' A6000 the other week in a quiet gallery and never felt like I was standing out.
     
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    Just don't get the A7R :D

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    Yeah, that things shutter is very noisy and Im not really bothered by shutter noise.
     
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    I shot with a friends' X100 for a while and used it as a small extra body when shooting wedding candids but, like Snerks with his Oly above, found the silent leaf shutter annoying because there was little or no feedback. I agree that it gives an added secrecy to actually shooting but is there really any need for complete silence even when shooting street?
     

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