Question Which smart thermostat?

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    1. 1pudding1

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      Hiya. I've just bought a commuter crash pad/2bed flat for when im at work away from home. I work a fixed pattern of 5 days on/4off/5 on/3 off. The work hours vary completely too so there's no way to schedule the heating to heat the flat when i'm actually there.

      At the moment, it's got a recent (3yr old) Ideal combi-boiler, which is set to always on. This is then connected to a 7 day Horstmann Centaurstat 7, which is a simple 6 point timer for each day of the week. The always on on the boiler is fine, as the hot water is just on demand, but the heating via this thermostat is heating the flat a lot when im not there.

      I could just turn the thermostat effectively off via the time setpoints, and override when im actually there, but then i'd constantly be coming back to a cold flat. Ideally I want to replace the thermostat with something smart, that I can either access remotely from my phone in advance of going to the flat, or perhaps by geolocation when i get within 5/10miles to get the heating on. And also would have some kind of away/holiday mode and a fall/setback temperature.

      Any recommendations on what to replace the thermostat/timer with, as there seems to be tons out there from fairly basic simple and cheap stats that might do what i need, to the top of the range such as Nest etc which as supposed to recognise your habits/routines etc (but which would be completely wasted in my situation i guess?)

      Cheers.
       
    2. Lesmor

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      I like my Hive system
      Great for going on holiday schedule
      Works perfectly by phone app
      You would need to check compatability with your heating
      Geolocation by IFTT
       
    3. 1pudding1

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      Sounds good. Works with standard combi-boiler and thermostatic raditor valves? What parts came with it, was it a wall unit and then something/relay etc to connect to the actual boiler?
       
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      As i said you would need to check compatability with a combi boiler
      I had a honeywell controller so the hive box was a straight swap
      Then you have the Hive hub connected to your router
      Also a portable battery powered thermostat
       
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      Also look at 'nest' will do all of the above
       
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      Tado is another option that looks good. I have a Nest, as I got it free.
       
    7. Lesmor

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      Yup
      I also considered Nest but the thermostat is hardwired so I went with Hive
       
    8. Jamie

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      Nest isn't hardwired if you don't want it to be.
      The thermostat itself connects wirelessly to the heatlink which is the box of tricks wired into your boiler and just needs USB for power.
       
    9. TylerDurden

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      Do you have a wired thermostat in the property ? If so I'd go for a Netatmo, super easy self install, from then on controlled via phone app / web browser
       
    10. 1pudding1

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      Yeah, its a wired thermostat, so wired would be good as it removed the need to bother with batteries. Tado and Hive looking good atm, Tado especially looks like a really easy install with it just replacing the thermostat and no need to wire anything into the boiler.

      Will look at Netamo, which item in particular?
       
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      Nest user here. Self install, 40 minutes. Does everything that I need, easy to use, learns my patterns of occupation, geofences, compensates for weather, detects occupation, keeps my home at the right temperature at the right times and looks cool. Enough said.
       
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      Tado still uses batteries. To be fair my old school British gas programmable thermostat uses batteries too.
       
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      https://www.amazon.co.uk/Netatmo-smart-thermostat-works-Amazon/dp/B00GWKW8SY
       
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      Thanks all. Ordered the Netatmo earlier, hopefully arrives tomorrow before i go back to the new place on Weds morning so i can install it this week.
       
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      I'm definitely technically deficient and I fitted my wired Netamo in a few minutes. If you are unsure of the wiring colours, email them a photo of the wires and they will tell you which way to fit it. If you want your heating on at 6am it can either switch it on at 6am or there is an option that it can come on earlier so that the desired temperature is attained by 6am (or whatever time you set it to).
       
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      Hive products don't play well with others - so for me it isn't even a consideration.

      I've got a Logitech Harmony Ultimate Hub & Remote, along with the Hub Extender for controlling Zigbee / ZWave smart doo-da's. Tado is the one that I keep coming back to - mostly because of it's integration of smart TRV's which can control the temperature in individual rooms. It's not a cheap investment (about £900 for a 3 bed, 2 bath terrace) - but I'm hoping it will work out.
       
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      Just a thought but check your enery provider. Some are doing offers for smart thermostats, mine for instance are offering free Nest including fitting.
       
    18. 1pudding1

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      Well, i got to the new place last night and the internet had already been activated and turned on when i connected the new router, so decided to give it a crack installing the new Netatmo. Done in about 20mins :) All working nicely now and set up IFTTT so when i leave it drops back to the away temp of 12deg.
       
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      I have used the TADO with a combi-boiler and it worked beautifully. Easy to self-instal with your setup.
       
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