Which receiver gives this seemingly simple requirement

[joe.skids]

I'm looking at replacing my current denon 1909 and want a receiver that allows me to have stereo audio in a 2nd room while the main output is 5.1.

Basically I want to put a pair of speakers in the kitchen so when we have the tv on in the lounge we can hear it in the kitchen.

The 1909 kind of does it with the A and B speakers but the main output has to be stereo otherwise the kitchen just gets the left and right channel.

Not to fussed about having separate volume controls or listening to a different source just want stereo audio of whatever is on in the lounge.

Any recommendations would be great.

 

[dante01]

The problem is that although 7.1 AV amps with multizone capabilities can both power 5.1 in the main room while powering another two speakers in another location, the source has to be analogue or via an amps USB or networking abilities. Audio sources connected via digital inputs cannot be output to the additional zone or zones. By asking about 5.1 in one room while having stereo in another suggests the sources you want to use are outputting 5.1 audio, which in turn suggests they are using digital inputs?

Apart from this, what kind of budget do you have and what speakers are you currently using?

 

[joe.skids]

All inputs are hdmi not not always 5.1 like when watching sky.

My budget is upto £500 and I currently have Bose speakers connected to the 1909.

 

[dante01]

All inputs are hdmi not not always 5.1 like when watching sky.

In that case you'd not be able to send the audio to a second zone. Only audio sourced via analogue inputs can be output to additional zones. The number of channels present is irrelevant. HDMI, optical and Digital S/PDIF coax are all digital.

Is the additional zone the only reason for wanting another amp? If so then you need not buy a new amp because a new amp will not fascilitate what you want from it.

 

[joe.skids]

I want to replace the amp so the 1909 can be used in another room.

Shame there's no receiver that can facilitate this.

What about an analogue stereo output to another amp?? Are there any receivers that will allow this??

 

[dante01]

What about an analogue stereo output to another amp?? Are there any receivers that will allow this??

Yes, but again, the analogue output would only output audio sourced via analogue inputs.

 

[GlassWolf]

simple solution is to connect your satellite or cable box to the AVR using both HDMI (for digital video and audio) and a pair of RCA cables for L+R analog audio.
This allows you to run a pair of speakers for Zone 2 output from the receiver, using the television box as your source.

 

[joe.skids]

simple solution is to connect your satellite or cable box to the AVR using both HDMI (for digital video and audio) and a pair of RCA cables for L+R analog audio.
This allows you to run a pair of speakers for Zone 2 output from the receiver, using the television box as your source.

Thanks for the suggestion. That would be fine for my sky source but was hoping to have a better solution where any input would be output to zone 2. I listen to music a lot though my apple tv and this doesn't have an analogue output for example.

 

[GlassWolf]

then you're going to have to run a distribution network from a central location. That gets complicated and very expensive, but does allow you to run HDMI over CAT5 ethernet to as many rooms as you like, with the source devices being in the central "network room"
This is pretty much the way centralized distribution of AV signal is done now with large homes professionally.

 

[joe.skids]

then you're going to have to run a distribution network from a central location. That gets complicated and very expensive, but does allow you to run HDMI over CAT5 ethernet to as many rooms as you like, with the source devices being in the central "network room"
This is pretty much the way centralized distribution of AV signal is done now with large homes professionally.

Actually this is exactly how I have it setup at the moment but I don't need a tv in the kitchen. I can see the tv in the lounge from the kitchen put not always hear it so thought a couple of speakers ontop of the wall units would be ideal.

I thought my original request was a limitation to the 1909 currently in use which is why a thought about changing it and making use of it in another room.

 

[GlassWolf]

Nah just about every AVR I've looked into has the limitation of analog-only for zone 2. It is really annoying, I admit. Even my Onkyo TX-NR5009 is that way.

 

[GlassWolf]

PS, something like this might help, too:
Sabrent DA-HDCP HDMI to Component Video/RCA Audio Converter - HDMI Input, Component (YPrPB/YCrCb) Output, 720p at TigerDirect.com

run HDMI from the wall plate in the kitchen to a small receiver or amp/volume control and youor speakers.. just remember you would need some form of an amp since HDMI is a line level signal output.

 

[Mark.Yudkin]

Nah just about every AVR I've looked into has the limitation of analog-only for zone 2. It is really annoying, I admit. Even my Onkyo TX-NR5009 is that way.

The Anthem Statement D2v and AVM50 have a Copy Main facility that allows you to direct a 2.0 downmixed copy of the main zone's source (analogue or digital) to the secondary zones. Of course, these are processors rather than AVR's (Anthem's MRX series does not have this facility).

I didn't suggest the Anthems to Joe, because although they provide a complete solution tohis problem, they're in a price range that is rather above his current Denon's.