Discussion in 'Plasma TVs Forum' started by Ice_Black, Jan 9, 2008.
I am planning to new buy Plasma 42 inch... No more than £1000
Which model do you recommend?
There are lots of variables associated to the answer, as you dont give much away about your room, seating, etc etc etc.
My first port of call would be to read the wealth of information within this very section.
Thats exactly what i did. I read lots on here, then read lots of magazines, then finally went for a demo of various models. Then i made my decision and made a purchase.
Seems the best way to make your mind up to me.
42 inch TV will be placed in the corner.. will be watch tv about 2/3 meter back. I watch alot of movies and Sport - mostly at night.. Subtitle is very important as I am deaf.
I have done some research the difference between LCD and Plasma.. For me I think im going with Plasma (to avoid blurry effect on fast movement).
Mine is also in a corner. Viewing distance around 9' or so.
I also considered pros and cons of LCD and Plasma, and ended up with a Plasma, moving away from my 32" LCD.
My second choice was to be the Panasonic 42PZ70.
But it wasn't my first
Yes I am considering going with Panasonic 42PZ70B.. You know any good offer anywhere?
I got my Plasma from Sound and Vision in Bolton.
I noticed they had the Panny for £890. I dont know how that compares though.
Oh Bolton!! Im from Bolton!!!!
That's an easy choice. The 42PZ70B is by far the best set under a grand (and the only 1080p one I believe). Check out some of the more recent high end 42" LCDs as they now come with 100hz to reduce smearing Such as Toshiba 42Z3030D or Samsung F86 range. Just in case you change your mind
100Hz is designed to reduce smearing? How's it supposed to do that? I thought it was designed to smooth out motion by creating extra frames?
panny 42PZ70B all the way
Yes but supposedly it reduces motion blur according to some reviews. They're supposed to be much better for watching sport. I can't say for sure because I don't have one. Just going by what I've read.
Guys.. What is PED?
I just went to: http://www.soundandvisiononline.com/moreinfo/index.asp?product_id=13552
It say: 5000:1 Contrast Ratio
It that a mistake?
You may want to consider the PX70 as its not as wide as the PZ and therefore may fit into the corner of the room better
PED means it comes with the pedestal stand.
The contrast ratio is not a mistake.
LCD manufacturers quote a Dynamic Contrast which means bugger all! Their actual contrast is more like 1200:1 according to dedicated reviews.
Don't freak out though because 1200:1 ratio is still excellent.
Firstly I bought a 42PZ70 from Sound and Vision in Bolton and am very pleased with it so far.
I would recommend taking a trip to Sound and Vision shop anyway. Look for the tall bloke with a beard (I think he was the manager), he's the most helpful of the staff I found and I'm sure he will show you a selection of HD/SD/Sports to help you judge. The TV was actually cheaper in store than on the web site when I went - only by 9quid, but thats a HDMI lead isnt it.
If you want to collect then you need a BIG car and a strong friend along as the box is huge due to the (10kg !) pedestal being packed in a box in the box - their warehouse is about half a mile from the store...
I'm surprised noone has picked up on the possible image retention issues of having subtitles displayed all the time on a Plasma TV.
The manufacturers recommendation
# Try not to view channels with stationary backgrounds or logos for extended periods of time.
# Avoid extended display of static images (video games, computer images, DVD title screens, etc.).
This is from their FAQ.
I'm in no way scaremongering, and I don't use subtitles myself, but if they have a text in a static black box (obviously the text changes so thats not an issue itself lol) then it would be best to seek advice from someone in the know with regards to subtitles on Plasma. A well respected member 'MAW' in this forum may be able to offer advice here - or the manager in Sound and Vision.
I bought the 42PX70 with the cabinet from Sound & Vision in Bolton.
Looks great, worth going with the CAB version if you can get one and you are not dead set on native 1080P.
Ice...i have got a 42"PX70 With the CAB....I also live in BOLTON..you are very welcome to come to my house and see a proper demo of it if you like (without the store settings)........My dad has the PZ(ped) version of it in bolton too...and to be honest both these sets are excellent.for a corner the px(with the cab) is a much better fit .The PZ is very wide.....(and FULL hd) if that is the route u want to go down ?
Funkyspider hit the nail on the head with the subtitles issue....I am not sure how or IF it will affect the plasma.
Surely subtitles wouldnt be a major concern as the images arent static for that long , not that i have ever used them. But surely they are only present on the screen overlaying the spoken dialogue at anyone time.
I think want funkyspider means is,if the subtitles are inside a black box (the black box is static)which would cause retention.But unsure wether they are in a box ? could some1 confirm this ?
I have just bought the 42px70b (no stand or cab) as I am wall mounting. Looking forward to seeing it in the flesh! Went for it as in these forums, and also Which? rave about the Pannys. Already have a 32" Tosh that is 2 yrs old and would have happily bought again, but got the Panny from Empire Direct for £630. If you pay £20 for an ED card with them then they will extend the warranty to 3 years. Given that the TV is on sale in JL for £800, I went for it. Am pairing with a Premier Mounts AM3 mount - can't wait!
I did indeed - wasn't trying to put the original poster off, just thought it was worth confirming from someone with appropriate knowledge that it wouldn't be an issue.
Read the terms and conditions regarding 3 year warranty its true what you say but you have to renew the card subscription every year to qualify for the 3 year cover , not expensive but its true trust me
Ahh i see what you mean, think its programme dependent as ive seen it just as free flowing text coming up on the screen and in black boxes
Nice spot! Had missed that, and would be very naffed off if I used them as a one off, but tend to use them quite a bit - still a bit sneaky tho!
Thanks for advice guys..
Kevo330: According to Official Panasonic Websites.. Contrast Ratio is - 10,000:1 (Sound & Vision say: 5000:1)
funkyspider: I don't think subtitle would be a problem because black box is not always static - should be ok. Yeah I am planning to go to 'Sound and Vision' next week. Thanks for tip.. I will look for a guy with a beard
Does anyone know where I can find a pictures of plasma (42PZ70B) at the back, some inputs connections... Want to know how many Scart connection it has..
It has 2 Scarts according to Panasonic's site.
Thanks for the heads up on that.
I visited my local store and was assured that after paying for a card the warranty was indeed for 3 years.
The card benefits do end after a year unless you resubscribe but the warranty on your item lasts the full 3years.
I'm not sure if the small print confuses the issue but I can only go off what the staff stated.
Now i just need to decide which tv.
Then either i am reading the T & C incorrectly or there staff do not Know the terms and conditions
AS i read it Benefits ie warranty is only valid with current membership ie the card must be renewed on an anual basis
Extract from Terms and conditions
1)edXtra Membership is valid for a period of 12 months from date of purchase.
2)Membership is renewable on an annual basis. Administration fee applies.
9)Exclusive member benefits can only be redeemed with valid membership. Membership will be verified with the original transaction. Please keep the original receipt in a safe place as you may be required to refer to this for future transactions.
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