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Which PC steering wheel?

Discussion in 'PC Gaming & Rigs' started by Bender, Jun 26, 2004.

  1. Bender

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    I'm going to buy a force feed back wheel for my PC.

    Any one got some advice on which I should go for? :confused:

    I was thinking of the 'Enzo Ferrari Force Feedback'. Anybody got this? Is it any good, any problems etc.

    Any advice, info on this or any other wheel, most appreciated. Cheers
     
  2. Julia

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    why not buy the £6.99 PS2 joypad adapter from play.com and instantly increase your steering wheel catalog to include all the PSone and PS2 ones? They generally have a lot of buttons and quite often have force feedback.
     
  4. drummerjohn

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    Get the Thrustmaster Enzo - its in Currys was £80 now £30 - BARGAIN (end of line)
     
  5. Joe Pineapples

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    i WAS going to recommend the logitech MOMO racing, since i got one of these recently and have been very happy with it. But i dont think i could pass up the £30 Currys bargain mentioned above :smashin:
     
  6. Julia

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    Are you guys sure about Thrustmaster Enzo Ferrari Force Feedback wheel?

    PC World have it on £30 too.

    What do you think about this review from:
    http://www.gameseek.co.uk/productdetail/PCehcujwhe1k1ab0h1/

    "Not recommended
    There seems to be a design fault with this wheel: backlash in the gearing. When stationary or travelling straight ahead, the wheel chatters from side to side, completely masking the true signal. I tried two wheels (from currys) and then looked at a few in PC world and they are all the same. Nowhere near the quality of mechanism of the formula-force GT. Extremely disappointing."

    I'm not sure about it...

    Let me know what you think,

    Julia
     
  7. Joe Pineapples

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    i guess going by that review, i would go back to recommending my wheel. But it might be worth checking a few more reviews to see if they experienced those same problems. You could always buy it from PCWorld and if it does the same thing, take it back, along with a print out of that damning review.
     
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    Thanks Deansimm, that's a good idea! It's a too good deal to pass Thrustmaster Enzo, but at the same time I don't want to make a mistake.

    I've read only positive reviews about Momo, I hope it's worth the price difference.

    Julia
     
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    Interesting review. My Thrustmaster doesnt do that. Maybe it was an issue with his PC setup interfering with the USB connectivity.

    PCworld will have it the same price as Currys as they are the same group. This product is end of line for the Dixons group (Currys/Dixons/Pcworld).
     
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    Drummerjohn and Deansimm,

    Many thanks for your help. All day yeasterday I went shopping to look for Thrustmaster Enzo and I couldn't find it anywhere (PCWorld don't have it anymore and neither Currys).

    So I went for the Momo at Savastore.com (I hope I won't be dissapointed :)).

    Just one more thing: can you recommend some cool racing/driving games with force feedback?

    Thanks,

    Julia
     
  11. Joe Pineapples

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    the more serious driving games tend to have the better force-feedback - things like nascar thunder 2004, and EA's F1 Challenge. I'm currently playing Toca Race Driver 2 though, which is very immersive with the wheel, but still fun to play (make sure you choose pro-simualtion mode). I would also recommend the rather old Colin Mcrae Rally 2 for force-feedback - much better than CMR4 (IMO). Also worth downloading the alpha demo of GTR
    http://www.gamershell.com/download_5719.shtml - only one car and one track, but the feel of driving is some of the best.

    btw - www.wingmanteam.com is a good site to visit for utilities you may or may not use with your logitech wheel.
     
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    Deansimm,

    Many thanks for the links :eek:)
    I've just received my Momo this morning and I'm dying to try it.

    Regards,

    Julia
     
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    This is my specialist subject since I run Race Sim Central, the largest PC racing sim website on the net.

    I'm afraid I can't help you with recommending a force feedback wheel since I use an extremely expensive non-FF wheel from BRD.

    As for racing games/sims, at the moment the top sims are:

    1. Grand Prix Legends. This simulates the 1967 F1 season and has been for many years the greatest racing sim available. There is an updated demo available to download from here.

    2. NASCAR Racing Season 2003. This simulates NASCAR racing from America. If racing 800bhp stock cars in very close fields is your thing then get this. You can race online with up to 42 other people. This is currently my favourite sim and the only one I race in an online league.

    3. F1 Challenge 1999-2002. The best modern F1 sim. As well as simulating 3 seasons of F1 it also forms the base for many mods.

    4. Live for Speed. A demo is available to download from here. This is the PC equivalent of the GT series and is very popular for both offline and online racing.

    5. GTR. The next big thing. I've only recently started driving the press release demo and is is simply stunning. A number my colleagues were at the Spa 24 hour race and spent a lot of time racing the latest build and say this will be the racing simof choice for years to come. The sim is developed by Simbin who are owned by the racing driver Henrik Roos who competes in the FIA GT championship the sim models.

    If you have any questions, let me know.
     
  14. Joe Pineapples

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    Hey Phil, this area is for us mere mortals, so go on, clear off ;). Joking aside, its good to see a specialist like yourself, posting on here. Any idea when they say GTR will be released? - really looking forward to this one.

    Dean
     
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    I'm not sure exactly when GTR will be released. Simbin are still sorting out publisher agreements at the moment. The software also isn't quite finished. My colleagues drove a 0.95 build in the VIP single driver simulator and a slightly earlier version in a 6 driver mutliplayer simulators at Spa. A rumour that is circulating on our GTR forum, which is the official community forum of GTR BTW, is that it will be released on 17th September but Simbin haven't ever mentioned a date. This includes during the car journey one of my coleagues shared with one of the heads of Simbin when getting to Spa at the weekend.

    I can't wait for it to be released either.

    We have a number of videos of GTR online which you may be interested in downloading, including one where Henrik Roos, the owner of Simbin and Viper GT racer, demonstrates how good the AI are. See them at http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=168383
     
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    No I haven't yet. Been on holiday for 2 weeks so this is the first time I've read this thread. So I've not seen any of these replies till now.

    I'd still like peoples advice on wheels.

    Probably missed the £30 deal on the Enzo now :rolleyes:

    Julia, what do you think of your Momo?
     
  17. pez

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    Howdy Phil!

    Hows the sim racing going?

    RSC forums that Phil runs are great, if you want to know anything about racing sims/games, then check them out.

    As for pc wheels, ive been using a BRD wheel too, but i recently purchased the Logitech Driving Force Pro wheel.

    Its not advertised as a PC compatible wheel, but it is (you will have to download the logitech Profiler software from Logitechs web site). Its a 900degree Force Feedback wheel (most are only about 270degrees), and not only is it the BEST wheel for Gran Turismo 4 Prologue and forthcoming Gran Turismo 4 full game, but its great in PC sims too.

    Youll have to configure it to meet the varying demands of whatever sims you elect to play (obviously you wouldnt want 900 degrees of rotation available in a Formula One car), but its pretty easy to customise from within windows.

    Having used the BRD, a Microsoft FF wheel and now the logitech, its the logitech that gets most of my play time.

    Games:

    NASCAR racing 2003 from Sierra/Papyrus,

    Grand Prix Legends from Sierra/Papyrus (made in 1998, but still one of the best car sims of all time, 1967 3litre F1 cars, no downforce, plenty of slidy action - tough to learn, but the most rewarding sim out there. Plenty of sim community add ons to bring the graphics up to 2004 levels, and a 1965 add on (also community created) that takes you back 2 years to 1.5 ltr engined cars, much easier to learn to drive)

    Formula 1 Championship from EA/ISI,

    GTR (forthcoming), based on the FIA GT championship, and as Phil said, the press demo is great. Big things are expected of the final release.

    Ill throw Gran Turismo 4 in here too, as i think its superb, and its going to have online multiplayer. Its accessible without being overtly arcady (although compared to the GPLs and F1Cs it might seem that way!)

    pez
     
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    Is F1 champioship the same as F1 99-02 anyone point me in the right direction for force feedback settings m. GTR is great with the correct setting within windows and the .PLR file for your particular wheel. I am using the Logi momo reg and it is unbelivable how realistic it is.
     
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    Mate - mcrae rally 2 just seems to have the physics - i miss is it with my momo force, bought rally 3 + 4 and was dissapointed - is there any thing as good as 2?
     
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    Hi Pez, fancy seeing you here. As for rallying, Richard Burns Rally looks to be the next big thing in terms of rally sims. It looks like it has decent physics unlike the CMR series.
     
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    and they've just announced the pc version has gone gold - should be in the shops the first week in September :smashin:
     

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